No. It isn’t.
But I’m against the idea that we need to add progressive features from “future” expansions to “fix” TBC. There’s nothing wrong with TBC, there are solutions to the majority of the problems people are having that they disregard or flat out refuse to try.
The arguments for each particular change are made disingenuously; people trying to “sell” the idea as being so amazing for the community is just bs when they just want a thing faster/easier/soloable/like retail. For themselves.
I think Blizzard screwed up by having so much communication with the people that play the games they make and allowing the loudest and most persistent people to influence changes to the game through the years.
Yeah, I would instantly agree to an option like that.
They already changed a lot of stuff, so that argument isn’t valid!
Because why not! It’s not tbc anymore, so why trying to keep it as something where they already decided that they don’t want to keep it the original way…
I don’t agree to that. I agree that retail isn’t fun anymore, but dual spec for example came with wrath and wrath was without a doubt the most popular expansion. The reason why retail isn’t fun is simple: the mechanics aren’t fun anymore.
The class designs are mostly unfun. Or that you need to wait like a major patch before you can fly around, instead of allowing to fly instantly when you reach max level (as it is in TBC) is unfun. The game has become unfun because of pruning. The mini talent system instead of mixed talent trees are unfun. The shape to “no skill based damage” so that every pensioner deal max damage by pressing 2 buttons in what ever rotation is unfun. AND SO ON.
But a system like dual spec etc. is deffo not the reason why retail is so unfun!!!
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You’re naive if you think this is my main.
Of course this version of the game could be “improved” and those expansions came out with those subjective improvements, most of us are here to play TBC as it were then though.
Sad to hear they’re willing to add in features introduced later on, they might as well just release those Classic expansions if players want those features so bad imo.
TBC is not broken without dual spec. People played it just fine in 07, and can do so again. The target audience for classic are people who wanted to get away from retail and all its trappings. You prefer that junk? Go play it.
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What is it? Why is retail unfun?
But would help the people a lot who wants to enjoy just more than one content.
The major problem is the respec fee. If you are just raiding you don’t need to respec ever. Only if you want to do some PvP in between as well, then you suddenly need to spend 50g each time you change your spec.
That is somewhat absurd. Why do you get punished only because you want to spend more time to the game and experience more from it?
So no, it’s not broken without but it’s unfair without and wouldn’t harm anybody but help a lot people. There is a reason why even most private TBC server implemented dual spec at some point. And why Blizzard did back then without removing a system like that since it was implemented.
You guys always argue that the game has become bad over the years because of it’s features, but lets not forget that it was implemented with the expansion that was the most popular one!!
They’ve added or improved plenty of things that you don’t seem to take issue with.
You want 400ms batching back?
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Because vast majority of them complaining on the forums, don’t main TBC and are simply tourist that want retail QOL on a classic product.
I unironically don’t understand why they play a classic version of the game, if they are fond of soo many features from retail, why don’t they just stick with shadowlands.
I’m 100% fine with the honor gain, it’s how it was back in the day, and it was a grind, old versions of wow had a grind to it, you were never suppose to get things quickly.
Lot of young people or entitled people seem to think they should have access to a full set of pvp gear, the blue pvp set is not even that good, most people that are good at arena, raided/dung grinded for gear before arena came out.
Arena gear is not very hard to get in season 1, and q’s are quick on both allie and horde, you can skip the blue pvp set, the sweaty players on Private servers never even touched pvp gear during season 1, they went into arenas with Kara gear (which is BIS for majority classes)
Sad to see soo many people mis-informed about this version of the game.
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Flipping your spec several times a day was not a play style in TBC. You will not get this feature in TBC. You will get it in WotLK Classic. See ya then! 
So charge gold to switch spec to run a dungeon.
Ask your guild for help if they want you to respec for raids.
Ask for the green boes to cover your respec cost.
Level enchanting, disenchant green boes for enchanting mats and sell them.
Learn to play the auction house.
Do some dailies.
Do some quests.
Skip the respec and group up with people.
I think its great, I dont think its perfect… i.e to say there is nothing wrong with it, I say well… how about BG queue times and finding groups? There are certainly issues with both those things that could be improved upon.
I agree, there are always solutions but have you heard the expression “the cure is sometimes worse than the disease”… I am sure you have and its probably the reason you dont want changes, you worry if we try to “cure” these issues we end up in a worse situation. Its very valid and something to be aware/careful of before attempting any change.
I agree this happens a lot. I know I speak only for myself and my interactions and try to shape my language that way but often aggrandise my language by using all encompassing prose trying to pass it off as fact instead of opinion… I just chalk it up to the world we live in, conditioned by clickbait.
I do try to see both sides to the argument though.
No thats how we got shadowlands, it shouldn’t be a democracy where everyone gets their say but lines of communication are essential (when controlled appropriately)… Ion went his own way and said F U to the playerbase we know better “we want to design a game where players make choices we think are interesting”… literally every source of feedback was “but thats not what we enjoy about the game you need to stop this before its too late”… and Ion said #ripcord #pyske no ripcord… it was a thing.
Like many other things that are implemented right now, like getting a daily hc quest for example.
Wondering why you still play TBC when it is already so different from back then. All the hotfixes that improve your game experience. All that other stuff you don’t seem to have a problem with.
I would say it could hardly be more hypocritical from your side. You want the original TBC but even though it already has changed a lot, it seems like you don’t have a problem with that or is there a change you don’t like? Some bugs you want back? Connection issues? Battle.net removed from the game so you can’t talk with your friends outside of whispers, etc.?
How we know we arent all just other person’s alt. One lone troll, talking to himself?
I think a lot of us would love proper progression based servers that followed the original patch cycle, but Blizzard was unwilling to go that far, so 2.4.3 with phased content is what we’ve got. That doesn’t mean we should open the floodgates to every desired feature from retail people have.
Ahh so it’s not your fault, it’s all the other players that rolled horde. Gotcha
Right remove boosts and alliance seal of blood. And remove these god awful lizard mounts.
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You misunderstand. I don’t think players should be punished with crappy queue times because of a choice in faction. They have the tools, manpower, and experience to fix this issue. This has nothing but a positive effect on player experience. The only reason to argue against this is because you are misery incarnate and would rather see horde players continue to complain because it gives you some semblance of self-worth. “Thank god I chose alliance lul sux for horde lul I am so smaert.”
Just because its not YOUR issue does not mean it should be ignored.
And nobody is asking for every feature. Just a feature that makes the game less unfair for people who wants to enjoy more than just one content.
What is more likely: You have 30 mins left before you need to go. Will you farm 25 minutes gold so you can queue arena for 5 minutes, or will you go offline and spend the 30 minutes with something else?
And now ask you the question: How does it help the game, the devs or the community that most people would decide to go offline because the farming isn’t worth it the time investment, as it stands in no relation with the outcome.
We have given several examples of how the system could be further mitigated so that it does not look too much like retail. For example, that you have to unlock the dual spec with 1k or 2k gold with a one time payment. Or another example was a monthly flat rate for 250g, where you can switch between 2 specs for the duration of 30 days.
No matter what they do, but the fact is that in its current state, it simply favors the people who want to experience less of the game. And that just doesn’t make sense! You shouldn’t get punished just because you do like PvE and PvP!
I do PvE and PvP with the same spec (dreamstate) and I don’t feel punished. But I’m also not a sweaty minmaxer who realises that the game is not that difficult to require absolute optimisation for every single activity you do. I do think that dual spec de-values the identity of characters, and if we are talking completely hypothetically, a system like SWG I think nails the flexibility and time investment, where you can change any part of your spec at any time, as long as you earn the EXP (aka invest the time) to do so.
However this is TBC, which already works a particular way (single spec, with option to pay for respecs if you choose). So you have to understand that people who came to play TBC know and expect that it works a particular way.