Why do people play on PVE servers?

[Seraca-stormrage (Seraca)]

What’s the appeal of playing on a PVE server vs a PVP server?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to join a PVP server, as you have the elements of PVE attached to it, along with the whole premise of Horde vs Alliance in a world PvP setting.

Seems like an amalgamation of the two would be better than just limiting yourself to one?

Because when I get home from work and I’m exhausted and just want to chill, I’d rather quest through Strangle thornvale without getting ganked every five minutes by someone who is bored?

If I wanna PvP I’ll do battlegrounds.

[Dåwñ-wyrmrest-accord]

I never enjoyed pvp in world of Warcraft, if I want a fun pvp experience I will play Overwatch and Mordhau. I play world of Warcraft for the story, adventure, and gear upgrades as well as the social aspect. Never for the pvp or dueling. But thats just my own preference.

[Amangina-hyjal]

I am rolling on a PvE server because I enjoy world pvp.

World PvP exists on PvE servers because the people you see flagged actually want to pvp.

It’s the difference between playing baseball with people who sign up for a league and just winging balls at the heads of anyone you see wearing a ball cap.

I’ve played on PvP servers, I’ve never seen real pvp there. Just ganking. Just people attacking and killing other people who are minding their own business because they happen to be vulnerable (lower level, low mana/health, killing a mob) or people sitting in a zone 30+ levels below them slaughtering all comers, and running away when an opposing 60 shows up.

Any semblance of world pvp on a pvp server evaporates the moment battlegrounds open up. The only people left are sociopaths curb stomping low levels.

[Iriegh-mugthol (Iriegh)]

Sounds like you are mad

I’m not mad. To each there own. But imo you are missing out unless you roll on a pvp server.

Thanks for your concern brother. I’ve played on PVP servers, trust me I won’t be missing out on anything. I love PVP so I will be doing battlegrounds and YES, I will flag myself when I feel like doing wpvp Lol.

I love beer too, but I can’t drink it everyday. I have a bad liver and I have to pick and choose wisely when I can have one.

[Kabbie-turalyon (Kabbie)]

Because some people are the way they are.

[Ristra-suramar (Ristra)]

This is actually a very good summary of things. Although outside of Classic’s context, it runs into minor problems once flying is added into the mix.

Shepard’s and wolves alike can’t do much about the wolf who doesn’t want to face either the shepard or another wolf.

Flying helps expose a simple truth. Escape is preferred. No incentive for sheep to remain sheep.

Except for that whole matter of the sheep isn’t level capped for that area yet, and cannot fly. Unlike the wolf. Your point remains, but the other remains valid too. At a certain point the game enables the one behavior, and starts to actively prevent a “pvp solution” from ever truly happening.

That would be largely supporting of the belief that WoW was not build around PvP. More of an afterthought.

Stronger opponents continually attacking weaker opponents. Of course the solution is going to be escape. Flying made that easier in some ways. But, it also made the job of the wolf a ton easier as long as the wolf didn’t expect to sustain the on escaping targets.

[Kreivos-area-52]

When I first originally rolled on PvP what I pictured were epic LotR style fantasy battles with armies of players charging across the fields at each other.

What it really ended up being was some bored rogue backstabbing you at 25% health and no mana most of the time.

I’m just not super interested in that anymore.

[Ristra-suramar (Ristra)]

PvP servers carry an extra dynamic called: Wolf vs Sheep.
This allows for a 3rd option: the Sheppard.

Sheppard vs Wolf vs Sheep can be great. Unless you are the sheep. The role of the sheep has little to no reward. Specially when the wolf over indulges on sheep to the point of extinction. Once the sheep move on. Then the role of the Sheppard is also gone and we have wolf vs wolf.

The type of player that plays the wolf that only goes after sheep does not want wolf vs wolf.

Dead game due to PvP canalization of new and inexperienced players. This is why we see the FRESH servers in the pserver cycle. Those hoping to avoid being made into sheep run to the FRESH and the wolves follow.

This is actually a very good summary of things. Although outside of Classic’s context, it runs into minor problems once flying is added into the mix.

Shepard’s and wolves alike can’t do much about the wolf who doesn’t want to face either the shepard or another wolf.

Yes they can. They get to max level and become the wolf? It’s not a very good summary. It’s a sob story lol. You have just as much power as anyone else in the game to get to max level, and the big scary “wolf” (ie ganker) can’t stop you.

Wild assumption that people are going to want to become a wolf. There’s a lot more to WoW than going after the new, inexperienced, or uninterested.

[Gwynplaine-wyrmrest-accord]

Because the “PvP” in PvP-Server doesn’t stand for Player vs Player. It stands for Powerful vs Pathetic IE ganking.
Yeah yeah, there have been epic Southshore battles but the other 90% is high level guys picking on lowbies and running for the hills if someone that can stand a chance appears. Rogues are super popular on PvP servers for a reason.

[Vaayu-lightbringer]

PvP servers offer nothing that PvE don’t unless the part of the game you enjoy is ganking people that can’t fight back.

I’m sure someones forming a rant in their mind about the epic world PvP battles that only happen on PvP servers. However the truth is those things are both extremely rare and almost always end up one sided as the dominate faction gets reinforcements that overwhelm by zerging.

ps: is anyone surprised it’s a rogue that started this thread?

[Valhallin-kilrogg]

I’m going to play Classic on a PvP server because I want the full “hardcore experience”. However, I played Vanilla on a PvE server. Why? Because world PvP is often just frustrating imbalanced ganking. It also doesn’t make any sense immersion wise.

In real life, and fantasy life, people wouldn’t just go from gathering resources or saving a village to murdering random adventurers, even of the opposite faction. Sure maybe undead or an especially psychotic Orc might, but a tauren hunter passing through Stranglethorn wouldn’t see a human priest passing by and shoot him in the face for no reason. Even Orcs have honor and wouldn’t randomly sneak attack and kill a weaker opponent without provocation outside of a battle setting.

World PvP often breaks the immersion and fun of the questing experience so someone that sucks too much to win in premade BGs can feel good about themself.

[Helam-amanthul]

In real life, and fantasy life, people wouldn’t just go from gathering resources or saving a village to murdering random adventurers, even of the opposite faction.

That’s where the argument “its war anything goes” falls apart because even in times of war there is still rules even if they aren’t followed.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

In real life, and fantasy life, people wouldn’t just go from gathering resources or saving a village to murdering random adventurers, even of the opposite faction.

That’s where the argument “its war anything goes” falls apart because even in times of war there is still rules even if they aren’t followed.

That’s because wpvp has no real objectives, it’s purely griefing.

[Crooge-medivh]

World PvP is only fun when you have the advantage.

[Neucrotica-caelestrasz]

Pvp both open world and Bg’s can be extremely fun.However when you just want to quest,explore farm it intefere’s with you going about your business.Just because one rolls on a Pve server doesnt mean they never partake in Wpvp,they just do so at their convenience.
I remember with enjoyment many many Crossroads battle’s as horde,and fights in hillsbrad were common,all this occured on pve server’s.People just like the choice of when they can enjoy pvp,and lets face it there will be plenty of griefers in Vanilla this time round who get their jolly’s camping and annoying player’s on a pvp server.

[Chroesire-bleeding-hollow (Chroesire)]

…and running away when an opposing 60 shows up.

…90% is high level guys picking on lowbies and running for the hills if someone that can stand a chance appears. Rogues are super popular on PvP servers for a reason.

It’s pretty funny how they scurry to the shadows the moment the prospect of an actual fight materializes. They can dish it all day but when it comes to taking it, they’re more sensitive than most of the lowbies they gank.

I wonder how the world PvP scene would change if all characters were effectively level 60 in PvP combat.

[Luangta-ragnaros]

…and running away when an opposing 60 shows up.

…90% is high level guys picking on lowbies and running for the hills if someone that can stand a chance appears. Rogues are super popular on PvP servers for a reason.

It’s pretty funny how they scurry to the shadows the moment the prospect of an actual fight materializes. They can dish it all day but when it comes to taking it, they’re more sensitive than most of the lowbies they gank.

I wonder how the world PvP scene would change if all characters were effectively level 60 in PvP combat.

I’m going to kill your level 20 on my druid, disappear when a 60 comes, then kill your level 20 again when he leaves. PvE servers are safe spaces and they shouldn’t exist.

[Kreivos-area-52]

PvE servers are safe spaces and they shouldn’t exist.

PvP servers are pointless gankfests that really only serve a small fringe with sociopathic tendencies.

[Kurisis-dathremar]

Google “redridge reddit”, that’s the reason why. There are some seriously psychotic people on PvP servers.

[Kerpz-moon-guard]

Not everyone love’s to PvP and now a day I’m sure since a LOT of us work and are not streamers who get paid to play WoW 12 hours a day we don’t have time to spend 3 hours on a PVP sever and only get half a level.