Because I think he’s cool.
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Would it surprise you if I didn’t think the Predator was evil? If I understand their lore they search and hunt for other predators.
Negan may be cool, charming and handsome but he coerces women into sleeping with him, forces communities to give him supplies or they die or get an iron to the face.
When I PvP, other players are signing up to do the same thing. Their is an agreement.
Negan doesn’t negotiate, their is no agreement other than give me your stuff or die.
Negan isn’t real, just like the Predator isn’t real, just like killing someone in WoW isn’t real. It’s all the same thing but for some strange reason you pick Negan and his fans for your labels.
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I understand Negan isn’t real but there are still debates about him, people choosing to side with him. What does reality have to do with fictional characters? If it isn’t real why are there debates at all about fictional characters?
… is this a serious question? There have been debates about fictional characters since humans learn to speak.
Exactly, so why does reality matter when it comes to this debate?
If you watched a bully take someones lunch money irl would that trigger an emotional response? If it does then the same emotional response would occur watching Negan do what he does in TWD depending on who you are as a person.
Yes.
Watching the same thing on TV or on the computer? No.
So you’ve never been invested in a show or movie where you care about the characters within it?
Sure, I’ve seen a movie that made me sniffle a little (Little Foot’s mom comes to mind) but I’m not going to rage or think someone’s crazy if they said they liked Darth Vadar or Negan.
I’m an adult and not stupid so my mind knows that James Earl Jones/David Prowse or Jeffery Dean Morgan is not actually killing and bullying people. They’re just paid actors doing their job.
There is you and then there are people who justify what Negan did and think he’s right, those are the people I’m talking about.
I realize that it’s a show and Jeffery Dean Morgan does a fantastic job portraying Negan but I’m not talking about the actor. I’m talking about the story.
So what? As long as they’re not acting on it, what difference does it make?
Some people think Arthas was right for wiping out Strath but that does not mean they’re going to go out and kill a bunch of people that have COVID.
You’re trying to say that people that enjoy dark fantasy are some how morally reprehensible about IRL things too and that’s not how imagination works. Maybe for truly mentally disturbed people like that the dude that read Catcher In The Rye then shot John Lennon but that’s not the norm.
I’m not saying that people will go out and cause harm but what I’m curious about is. Why do I feel appalled by Negan’s actions while others defend it?
Why would some people be ok with Negan coercing women and bullying other communites while it disgusts me?
If it’s not morals then what is it?
I think you have a problem with separating fact from fiction.
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So since it’s fiction, that’s why people enjoy what Negan does but if it was irl they would feel differently?
Cause I feel the same way when I see someone bullied irl or watching it in a show, movie or reading about it.
Because of this, isn’t this why debates even happen otherwise everyone would feel the same. People feel a certain way about certain things based on their moral compass.
Why do people still watch this franchise at all?
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So… you have no feelings what so ever when you kill someone in pvp but feel you have a “moral compass” when Negan bullies people on a TV show and think people that like the character have a screw loose?
This is exactly what I mean by you have a serious problem separating fact from fiction but whatevs. I feel this conversation is going in circles because you’re just going to stubbornly shake your head at your own dark fantasy and chastise others for theirs so this is my last reply to you.
Right? I was semi into the show until they killed Glenn and Abraham then I just noped out when they made Carole the greatest zombie killer to ever grace this planet.
The way you think I just wish you could have seen me while I was watching the first episode of Devilman Crybaby.
Enjoying violence is not the same as wishing it upon actual people.
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not to be too cynical here but our brains are still pretty basic “ook ook monkey brain” so humans are still violent to the point we had to make up laws to stop that.
we’re not as sophisticated as we think. we’re just a meat jellyfish piloting a bone mech at the end of the day
Players agree to PvP, it’s not forced on them. It’s not like their character is wiped upon death, they get to come back.
I don’t really understand why you’re comparing gameplay to a show, if you were to talk about the story of WoW and bring up some points then we could have a discussion but bringing up gameplay doesn’t make sense.
When it comes to Negan, if people enjoy watching others get bullied in a T.V show why would it be any different irl? In WoW for example, if I see a high level bullying lowbies by ganking them repeatedly I intervene and help out the lowbie but someone who enjoys bullying becomes exactly that in WoW, a bully.
You say I can’t separate fiction from reality which means that I should feel nothing when I watch the shows I’m invested in but that’s not how story telling works. You should know this since watching movies trigger an emotional response from you but if it’s only fiction why does that happen?
I just finished watching it for the first time.
Have you seen Hostel?
Yeah and it was garbage
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