That’s a very opinion based statement. The only expansion since I started in Wrath that hit me as a disappointment was WoD. At least they can defend it here since blizzard doesn’t remove negativity from the forums. Same with the subreddits you can complain in the WoW one but you’ll get ripped apart in the FF14 subreddit.
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Yes i know this isnt the normal reddit sources and APA formatting citations youre use to, this is the wow forum and its opinion on a game, so it might be stressful seeing actual opinion that may differ from your own.
Also im agreeing with you so might want to take your urges to fight others with opposing views to another poster interested with forum arguing a redditor(lulz)
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Because the people there like the game they’re playing. The sort of overwhelming negativity that’s become the norm in WoW? It just isn’t the standard there. They still enjoy the game and have good will for the developers.
On the flip side, it feels like most people posting in the WoW community actively despise the game, have nothing good to say about it, etc. But then if you suggest they try out another game, they get defensive.
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Why people keep posting FFIX on WoW forums? doesn’t that poor game have own forums? its 2021 …
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The majority of their playerbase operates via discord. They do have forums, but only a fraction of the playerbase uses them. Mostly for tech issues.
The people posting about it here are doing so because they also play WoW.
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You mean:
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Why can I skip content that has been out for 10 years, and it is actually worse for my experience to use a boost because the game is designed so that your experience in prior expansions is actually useful? I bought a boost and regret it - but I’ll level another character through everything (even leveling in current xpac takes awhile so you still have to essentially learn everything, it’s just not as spread out as doing it fresh). AKA - each xpac of FF14 has arguably 2-3 times the content of WoW, if not more.
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The store mounts and armor are the equivelant of flavor items, the game has SIGNIFICANTLY better in-game content.
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Story skips go along with the boosts, see above.
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Not really a content draught except for maybe people who grinded everything out early on in the expansion, the design of the game is different - you have 1 character that can do all of the games jobs (classes in WoW) so once you’ve completed on your main you can continue progressing “alt” jobs through the endless questlines.
I mean, I’d take those “issues” over a game that intentionally wastes player time for minimal meaningful gameplay anyday. AKA in 9.1 I’d have to spend 4+ hours a week in Torghast remaking legendaries to be raid relevant in Mythic for no good reason, my spec has been terribly designed for M+ which is the only replayable content, and the entire theme of the expansion makes little sense (and…covenants??? lmfao gtfo with your BS).
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Well it did come out 21 years ago so my guess is no.
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i have zero interest of playing wow past raiding at the moment due to burnout, wow’s content is really bland atm and this is coming from someone who does play at a high level but doesn’t play all the content at max level due to imbalanced classes and other ‘fun’ bs
Why do you keep bringing up Final Fantasy 9?
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A job/class boost. Similar, but not the same. Unless WoW’s boost has changed as of… whenever, the 14 boost will boost a Job/Class up to previous expansions max level, and nothing else. They don’t get any story skipped or crafters/gatherers/etc with it. WoW used to boost your professions too, but the way professions work in WoW now, there’s no point in this being booted.
This is in a lot of games and I’m okay with them as are a lot of people. Did you know a lot of their store mounts are actually mounts that were obtainable at one point in the game during limited time events? Sure, they do also have plenty of store only mounts, but it’s whatever.
Yes and no. FF14 story skip gets you up to current expansion while WoW basically throws you into the current expansion (looking at the 10-50 leveling route funneling you into BFA).
FF14 isn’t in a drought right now, it’s in the lull before the next expansion. In the past few months they’ve added the final steps of the relic, a new open world (instanced but still open, since it holds 72 players) area with mini-raids and kept adding onto the current story. Also the final 24 man raid of the xpac.
FF14 is really good with content pacing and ends up doing the 3-4 month cycle of new content to keep it fresh and without droughts. WoW on the other hand… how long has it been since Shadowlands came out again? Feels like over half a year.
Because it has been. SL launched November 24th last year.
9.0 will have been out for over 7 months when 9.1 drops. That’s almost as long as the average end of xpac patch.
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Fun fact, your brain makes up stuff 24/7. You literally never see everything in front of you. You see portions and your brain creates the rest. It’s the fundamental principle behind most optical illusions, tricking your brain into creating connections or equivalencies that don’t exist.
When you cannot find your keys and they turn out to be on the table in front of you, it’s cause you didn’t look at them and your brain made up an imaginary empty space on the table.
This makes it really convenient to believe what you want to believe. In this case that WoW is horrible and awful and FF is amazeballs.
You can never truly remove bias or prevent your brain from creating things. You can only train yourself to look closer, slower, and more methodically. You can learn tricks and by knowing some have some intuition or expectation for others.
1 - Character Boosts - I have one character. There’s nothing to boost. If I decided to try a new job, I want to see the quest line that comes with it and learn my abilities slowly. I’m kinda pepega, I can’t just have every ability thrown at me all at once and be told “go play this class”. I think FF is kinda more about the journey than the endgame. I don’t think boosts are that common.
I would recommend skipping ARR but even then there’s things you should probably know about if you care about a story, and if you don’t…well, why are you playing this game?
2- a good chunk, not all though, was at one point obtainable in game. I feel like throughout the lifecycle of an expansion FF adds more in game mounts than say wow does. It’s pretty much wow does a huge push at the start of an expansion of mounts then everything else goes to the store.
Honestly though, it’s not something that’s bothered me that much. Don’t get me wrong, I think the complaints ARE valid to a sub based game, but neither have really “crossed the line” with me. People love that crap, people buy that crap which is why they are there.
3 - kinda addressed in 1 a bit, but wow’s never really been a story centric game, aside from ARR’s huge late game quest chain the campaign never bothered me, that one part is absolute hell though
4- dude Shadowbringers was released July 2, 2019. The next expansion is coming out in Nov. What drought are you talking about? You’re playing the game at the end of the expansion right now.
i’ve played ff for quite awhile now, but i’ve always played it very differently than how i used to play wow. i don’t stay subbed for long stretches off time. i sub, i do the things i want to do, explore a bit and then unsub and repeat when interested again.
honestly, people need to start playing wow like that. the game has changed, you can’t play it like we once did.
There’s a huge difference between the topic you’re pontificating on and making judgement calls about media.
For example, if I want player housing and look for it in WoW, my brain doesn’t overlook it and “create” its absence. It doesn’t exist. My bias against WoW in this regard is informed by reality, not some imaginary scenario that my brain “created.”
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I think the only thing that has affected me, while playing FFXIV, was paying for a character boost. Since, leveling another job is a hassle once you’ve finish the story. Going to 1-80 is a chore in that game.
The armor and mounts aren’t something I would empty my bank for. The only worth while mounts are probably the Fenrir motorcycle mount and maybe the multi passenger mount.
WoW has a story?
A comprehensive list of things WoW definitively does better than XIV:
- A much broader and more diverse selection of playable races.
- Transmog > Glamour
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Yeah, I’ve got nothing else.
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I would say the system itself, absolutely. I’d love to just acquire a piece of gear in 14 and it’s automatically added to my infinite collection.
As for the armor/weapon appearances themselves…I’d say 14 has wow beat all day and twice on Sunday.
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I’d agree with you there. Plus the fact you can dye gear? I like that.
Another thing WoW absolutely has on XIV, which can’t even really be argued?
PVP.
If you like PVP? If you primarily play WoW for PVP?
XIV isn’t gonna do it for you. Their PVP system isn’t bad for casual play, but for anything deeper? Players will surely find it very lacking when compared to WoW.
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WoW also has a better inventory system. FFXIVs inventory is spilt between multiple windows and to access your bank is slightly more involved than accessing the bank in WoW.
the AH system in WoW is also better. In WoW you can just talk to the Auctioneer and sell things. In FFXIV you have to talk to your retainer to put things on the MB for you, but you can’t buy things on the MB from your retainer. No you have to go to a MB to buy things that you want. Very annoying.
The over world. WoW has a pretty seamless overworld aside from travelling from continent to continent. FFXIV all the zones are separate.
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