All he rest of your colonialist pre genoice response is simply wrong.
All tribes were included in the treaty.
Azsarha didn’t take over all their lands or banish the tribes to Zandalar. No they kept all their capitals and surrounding lands.
Yes the elves justification fails even for themselves.
Yes there is and a lot of it. Only a view elven fans are arguing against this. Literally no one else ever.
I did. Zahirwrite even posted it. Chronicles 1.
Why were the ruling elite. Of course they were educated.
Until they invaded Amani territory from Tirisafl. Note: The Amani had not even war with the Vyrkul in Tirisfal.
Vyrkul!
You don’t like any other option. It’s fore sure better than starting a war and blood feud for the next 7000 years.
Sure they did not like them. But the genocide thin for the Amani became a big part because of the lose of their holy places (and later nation).
Why? Isn’t that what you want? What you defend?
This goes for the Amani too. You can’t just walk over someones land, kill them and freak out if they fight back.
Incorrect. The Zanadalari merely used their control over all the other Trolls so that the Zandalari could keep their own lands and threw all the other Trolls under the Azshara bus.
That’s right, but that’s why I already said yesterday: The troll conflict is one of the few grey conflicts of the setting, because as you can see from the discussion, each side has legitimate arguments
That means that here, too, you have to ask yourself: Either both wrong, or neither wrong
This is true and I never argued against this ever. But you clearly can see on every map, Azshara never banished the tribes. She never took their capitals etc.
There would not even have been a point to mention the other tribes otherwise.
You indeed argue against that…I posted the same thing like three times… and I even asked you to read it again. You said all the towns were protected, but that was never true. Azshara could have taken them anytime, any day! Only Zandalar was protected.
The keyword here is attachment. Making a playable race, live, a popular race suffer genocide is much more intense than just telling about it or having it told.
The point is simply that I did not bring the Treaty into effect. I think you posted it yourself, didn’t you? If you argue on the basis of the treaty that no troll tribe except the Zandalari is entitled to any land anymore, then the high elves would have every right to any piece of land.
You also argued earlier that the Zandalari made a treaty for all trolls. And again, I posted the same thing several times.
Prove they knew where Amani Lands began and ended.
Because, at that time, the Vyrkul and the Human settlements were barely a few villages. Once the Humans estamblished an actual Nation there though, Yes the Amani DID start attacking them too.
Because THAT is worse then Colonization, that Conquest and subjugation.
The fact that you don’t have a problem with that but do have a Problem with a group of Elves finding themselves on the wrong side of a mountain and forced to defend themselves against a Bloodthirsty race, just proves you me you’re either willfully ignorant or just trolling.
The Trolls Attacked first because they were Elves, not just because they Trespassed.
That’s wrong. The treaty said the Zandalari have to keep the tribes in check. It never said the tribes have to move to the Zandalar mountains. Their capitols were left alone.
My only point with the treaty is, it’s more Indigenous people could not even count on unjust treaty’s which took all of their land. Even afterwards they would get crushed, removed from their lands and treaties violated. It’s pretty much a comparison to the treaties the U.S. government did with Indigenous people.
So is your speculation that the Trolls that might have lived there continued doing so under Night Elf rule, or did they all get pushed into said capitols as part of the unfair treaty?
SO, NO, Mister, you lied…I have told you so many times that not all tribes were included, so many times you have argued against it, again and again and again.
Lol, okay. Except that is you, blatantly ignoring the quests that destroy your point.
A Prayer and a Wing: A winged visage? Could it be…?
, there’s no time to waste. You may have been speaking to Aviana herself, trying to return to us.
I’ll need something from Aviana’s past to reach out to her. High atop the ridge overlooking this shrine, you’ll find a series of huge nests belonging to Blaithe, an ancient bird of prey that was once her consort. For ten thousand years he’s been mad with grief.
Go to one of his roosts, and use this call to summon him. Kill Blaithe and bring me one of his feathers.
The Wormwing Problem: Skylord Omnuron has been too gentle with the Wormwing harpies, allowing them to share a perch on this mountain. Just because they’re creatures of the air. Well , not all creatures of the air are created equal.
When the attacks on Hyjal began, the Wormwing went into a frenzy. They’re up there now, assaulting a sacred shrine they once claimed to revere.
I’m not troubled. Now we have a reason to drive them from Hyjal, don’t we?
