And again, my point is that this will lead to some BE players thinking their characters are better because they didn’t get corrupted on the first place -which is already an issue with some pro helf players who have the same rhetoric-
I fear the rhetoric of “I’m pure and uncorrupted” will divide the BE playerbase because some blue eyed BE players will see themselves as morally superior for not getting any fel corruption on them.
I’m sorry but I reiterated multiple times and made a definitive point of you saying that they’re physically exactly the same and that literally the only difference is political so I think you’re just confused.
ALL politically-aligned races should be playable means there are no non-playable politically aligned races, though.
You didn’t say “some” you said “ALL” that means if they’re politically aligned, they should be playable as per your own wording. Once again, you can just admit you were wrong. You MEANT “If they’re politically aligned they SHOULD be playable” or “It would be nice if politically aligned races were playable” Not “all politcally-aligned races should be playable”
Get the differences?
Which is fine, but the play-ability of said race belongs to only one faction and that’s what Blizzard has had to say a plethora of times because some people apparently can’t grasp that.
Wowpedia says he’s a former leader of the high elves as does wowiki so not the last, but he was at some point and wasn’t that after Kael left? So it would have been the last leader as per Wowpedia and wowwiki.
It also says that her lead is unofficial, so that’s not per Blizzard.
But it says she’s the unofficial leader, so that wouldn’t need to happen.
The blood elves left the Alliance because of Garithos, who was from Lordaeron. Stormwind is not Lordaeron. Lordaeron humans actually are on the Horde, as are the orcs who allied with their ancient enemies the forest trolls and attempted to burn down their forest home.
The lore logic behind it is as stupid as the Horde hating Stormwind because Lordaeron enslaved them, and so they invite the UNDEAD LORDAERON HUMANS TO JOIN THE HORDE.
It’s like if France attacked Italy, so Italy allied with France to attack England. It doesn’t make any sense.
There really isn’t a good reason why the blood elves would be as loyal to the Horde as they have been other than the developers wanting the Horde to have a pretty race to even out the faction imbalance.
I don’t even want high elves but don’t run your mouth about lore when the lore justification for the blood elves being on the Horde has always been shaky at best.
Lore… was forsaken… THe Lordaeron. The forsaken of lordaeron, that were of the alliance of lordaeron, had a high elf banshee leader… Slyvanas.
She advocated for the blood elves to join the horde. The forsaken were old allies that also hated arthas…
The horde has 2 races of the former alliance of lordaeron. So it makes sense. Lordaeron humans are on horde as zombies. Slyvanas advocated for both her people old and new. And they stay in the horde after hardships especially in the Pandaren war where they were thinking of going back to the alliance… Jaina sort of ruined that though.
The problem is that you’re justifying why the blood elves might possibly want to ally with the Horde and the forsaken, not why they hate Stormwind, which was my point. People like to throw around the “humans were racist to them” thing but it doesn’t hold up when you break down the logic behind that.
However I absolutely refuse to believe that the orcs would be totally okay with the forsaken while hating Stormwind as much as they do. I think people, even the writers, sometimes forget the forsaken are just undead humans. They’re not a different species, even though they look like it physically.
I don’t see many people playing allied races on Horde side either.
Idk but Slyvanas invited them to join the horde. She is the catalyst to elves in horde since Vanilla when she herself joined. We had a high elf warchief. She was beloved and betrayed us… the blood elves still stay in the horde, they still got screwed over by the alliance in World of Warcraft. It is pretty politically divided. Working with the Naga also pissed of the alliance (Garithos) Slyvanas ends up killing him too : ) and enslaving his people. The forsaken really did end up helping the blood elves more then any human alive did.
Anyway the horde has human-like representation in blood elves. I am glad for the new customization. Changing eye color is what made highelves/blood elves cool. Blood elves are the high elves we got ingame.
Now if you are talking about making blood elves and there customizations nuetral that is plausible. But the alliance would have to be okay with letting more races be neutral that is lore plausible. Which looks like it can happen some day imo.
I kinda thought this is was allied races was gonna be for at one point, to be honest with you.
I think they should have made the highmountain tauren more distinct and based them on the draenei skeleton, and then gave the Alliance the broken as an allied race who use the tauren skeleton.
All of the allied races would basically be faction-swaps of the other race’s skeleton, so that people can play the general look they like the most on the faction they prefer.
I honestly don’t care about high elves though. I thought the void elves were way cooler.
As a Blood Elf player I’ve always wanted more options for Blood Elves and blue eyes was one of them, they’re high elves after all. As Blizz keeps improving the game with new customization it’s only natural that we let them know what kind of things we would like to have.
Maybe allied races fell kind of flat? Idk personally I was thinking about race changing my Paladin to LFD and then i thought about all of the customization I’ll be missing out on, so my pally with remain human.
Always felt core races are much more tangible to the stories anyway.
Because people want a fair-skinned, blue-eyed, good-guy Legolas fantasy.
I guess some people take it to mean that Horde, with Blood Elves, now gets High Elves?
I don’t get it either, Blood Elves were ALWAYS High Elves to me. I’ve always been as puzzled as Blizzard, as to why players did not think so.
Void Elves are actually BETTER, to me. They are High Elves that have something new, a voidy thing!
I’m waiting for a Horde player to make a Blue eyed blood elf with the name:
Highelflol
To make people mad.
lore. alliance want high-elves, ion says horde have’em, and high-elves have blue-eyes. that’s… pretty-much it.
hordies are taunting alliance players who want’em, and alliance players are bringing up genuine lore-points for why high-elves should be on their side (namely vareesa being loyal to the alliance, leading the silver covenant).
As an Alliance player, I do not want High Elves. This discussion has been going on with every “what’s the next playable race” speculation, and a lot of people who had some sort of sense knew that a High Elf introduction would require a significant cultural and appearance change that would make them different from Blood Elves. And that’s what we got with Void Elves.
Void Elves are significantly better and more interesting lore-wise. The only thing Blizz did us dirty on is not giving us permanent void forms.
that’s arguable, but i’m not the one to do the arguing.
all i got is one point: void-elves literally came out of nowhere, and are just traitor blood-elves dipped in void, where as high-elves have an actual history with the alliance (atleast, the silver covenant does).
they are really just vereesas story. and she is tied up with dalaran and its neutrality
an actual alliance high elf, aside from being extremely rare(numerous citations to that fact) is just a blood elf with a different opionion. thats it. the horde is waiting if you want to play that race
I don’t think everyone who RPs their elf as “pure” is going to think their elf is somehow better than everyone else’s. Will there be some? Sure, but I doubt it will matter enough to most to cause any real divide within the Belf community.
that was also one of the reasons many antis were against giving the alliance a horde race because they have a couple npcs. it would allow them to say they are ‘purer’ or ‘the true high elves’
have to remember we are dealing with a very small community that has attempted to affect a change in the game for over 13 years now and still wont take the hint
Yeah, and I feel like that only got so bad with the High elf crowd because the division was between factions, but in this case it’s between a race in the same faction, so I doubt it will perpetuate in the same way.
If it does occur, I have a sneaking suspicion that the culprits will likely be some former Alliance players who can finally play as High elves, and might not have ever liked “blood” elves from the start.