Why do Alliance players want Horde races?

[Oslek-zuljin]

@Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord

@Cowthlic-borean-tundra

I haven’t seen any horde poster demanding access to any of the alliance races

I’ve seen many Horde people want the Dark Irons, and even try to make lore justifications on personality of the DI’s to say they fit the Horde better. shrugs

I have yet to see a thread of Horde asking for Dark Irons. I see numerous threads every day for Alliance asking for High Elves.

[Devette-atiesh]

have you used the search feature on this forum or on google?

[Cezol-darkspear]

@Oslek-zuljin

Alliance asking for High Elves.

Makes sense, they are a popular Alliance faction.

[Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord (Bipzi)]

@Oslek-zuljin

I see numerous threads every day for Alliance asking for High Elves.

They ask for it because the Alliance has some, they just aren’t playable. It’s similar to Horde that want the ogres playable.

[Alfgerðr-wyrmrest-accord (Alfgerðr)]

I agree with…RAGNAR!!!
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[Cezol-darkspear]

@Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord

It’s similar to Horde that want the ogres playable.

Difference is Ogres haven’t been as prominently featured as Horde allies for the better part of 15 years, unlike High Elves for the Alliance.

If they were a big faction in the Horde I 100% would support their addition.

[Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord (Bipzi)]

This isn’t wrong, and I know that. That is why I said similar. Similar isn’t exactly the same, but the comparison itself I do still feel has merit.

[Grymauch-zangarmarsh (Grymauch)]

Ogres for the Horde would be cool, but there is a logical reason behind that denial with avatar size.

Which is why they should give the Horde Mok’Nathal (Half-Ogres) in their stead seeing as how the Mok’Nathal helped build Orgrimmar.

[Bipzi-wyrmrest-accord (Bipzi)]

@Grymauch-zangarmarsh

Ogres for the Horde would be cool, but there is a logical reason behind that denial with avatar size.

Normally I would agree with the why, but I feel I must push back on this reason because of the tauren. Lore wise tauren are much bigger, but they shrunk them to make them playable. Similar could be done with the ogres. I mean I wouldnt play one… shortcrew4lyfe, but I know many would.

[Oslek-zuljin]

@Cezol-darkspear

@Oslek-zuljin

Neither do alliance

Yeah forgot aside from Worgen and Draenei, that the Alliance has a vast variety of races to choose from other than “varying heights of a regular human person”.

In a competition of “how anthropomorphic are our races”, the Alliance takes the cake and the restaurant you’re eating the cake in, because 80% of our races are literally just “human” with varying heights and accessories.

Meanwhile Horde gets Minotaurs, literal zombies, voodoo tusk people, blue moon elves and red sun elves, small green people, small hairy people. You can’t honest to god sir there and tell me we have similar variety to the Horde.

Your math is way off. You have Stormwind, Gilnean and now Kul Tirans. Three races out of a total of nine are human. That’s only 33%. And all three are comepletly different. You also get different types of Dwarves, Drainei, Gnomes, and Elves to go along with Pandaran.

Also, if you don’t like humans and want to play more monster types then why in the world are you playing Alliance? That’s like playing a Star Wars game on the Empire faction and griping about not having Wookies . It’s part of the lore.

[Gnomenclatur-detheroc]

If the Alliance gets things I want I play Alliance. If the Horde gets things I want I play Horde.

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[Elathaah-stormrage]

@Cezol-darkspear

@Elathaah-stormrage

Still leaves the question why you have to steal Horde races

Dunno where you or they got this idea, when the High Elf request is easily divorced from “copy-pasting” blood elves onto the Alliance “again”(Void elves with literal Blood Elf model). And have been by large requested with Kul Tiran and Zandalari differences as to not have the exact same look and mode as Blood Elves.

Besides, High Elves are an Alliance faction, just because Blood Elves were High Elves doesn’t mean High Elves like to be called that and are associated with the storylines of the Horde Blood Elves, in WoWs story thus far, they aren’t.

I seriously doubt that you don’t know these arguments. If you want to keep repeating the same old arguments, I have better things to do.

[Cezol-darkspear]

@Oslek-zuljin

Your math is way off. You have Stormwind, Gilnean and now Kul Tirans.

You’re under the impression that I literally meant “only human races”.

When I say human, I mean that most of the Alliance races despite them not literally being human in-game. Are quite literally human by our description, they are human people who are varying sizes (dwarf, gnome, Kul Tiran) and with varying accessories (long ears, blue skin), but it all essentially boils down to them all being closer to human than anything, which isn’t something that can be said about a large chunk of Horde races.

[Cezol-darkspear]

@Elathaah-stormrage

I seriously doubt that you don’t know these arguments.

That’s my line, because my argument is literal fact that is visible in game to this day, your “facts” are “Ion said Blood Elves are High Elves and are already on the Horde” which is factually incorrect when it comes to the High elf request, as the requested Elves have never been on the Horde and have never been Blood Elves or associated with that group past the point where they were declared “Sin’dorei”.

No one is trying to take Blood Elves from the Horde, we want the High Elves that have already been a part of the Alliance, even longer than Horde has had Blood Elves.

If you have better things to do then by all means, head off. But spreading misinformation by ignoring lore-nuance does nothing but a disservice to the overall knowledge of the game all of us play.

[Xilen-thrall]

Horde get the better/interesting races. Pretty much what drove me from playing Alliance anymore, I only played it for Worgen anyway.

[Oslek-zuljin]

@Cezol-darkspear

@Oslek-zuljin

Your math is way off. You have Stormwind, Gilnean and now Kul Tirans.

You’re under the impression that I literally meant “only human races”.

When I say human, I mean that most of the Alliance races despite them not literally being human in-game. Are quite literally human by our description, they are human people who are varying sizes (dwarf, gnome, Kul Tiran) and with varying accessories (long ears, blue skin), but it all essentially boils down to them all being closer to human than anything, which isn’t something that can be said about Horde races.

You don’t get to create new definitions for old words just because it doesn’t fit your narrative. That’s not how it works.

And again I say…if you don’t want anything “resembling” humans(really stretching that definition here), WHY ARE YOU PLAYING ALlIANCE? Human, Dwarves and Gnomes have been Alliance since the beginning of the game. It’s part of their identity.

[Azsharion-proudmoore]

Dear Tauren ,

the Alliance don’t want something what belongs to your faction. The High elves belong to the Alliance. They are in your faction only to attract more players . That’s all .

[Huntillia-proudmoore (Huntillia)]

@Cowthlic-borean-tundra

Why do Alliance players feel entitled to the Horde races?

There are currently High Elves on Alliance that are NPCs. That’s part of the reason why.

[Kynbrine-moon-guard]

@Cezol-darkspear

Yeah forgot aside from Worgen and Draenei, that the Alliance has a vast variety of races to choose from other than “varying heights of a regular human person”.

I just find it funny that one would argue that the alliance doesn’t have variety. Then advocate for High Elves to be added…which will look quite similar to Blood Elves already making it add zero diversity to the alliance…Weird.

[Morlune-blaumeux]

Honestly both sides got shafted with Vulpera and Mechagnomes, such bad choices IMO. I feel like I’m the only one that actually likes Kul’tirans. I enjoy the other Alliance ARs as well. Nightborne need to be updated to look good and not the ugly thing they were made into. Even the NPCs look better lol.