Why did we get Vulpera over Ogres?

Because “Da HerD gEts EveRThyInG tHeY WaNt!”

So? I’m not saying its for certain, but the fact that it CANNOT be the case that the Kul Tirans are the GILNEAN AR (despite Genn’s role in Kul Tiras; Despite their shared ancestry; Despite the lack of ANY races that share the Worgen rigs having ANY positive relations with the Worgen; Despite the fact that the Worgen Heritage questline just went out of its way to reinforce the fact that while ALL Worgen are Gilnean, not ALL Gilnean are Worgen) is bizarre to me.

Mia is not a Worgen, yet is their Queen. Tess is their future queen and just decided not to accept the Worgen curse. Lorna is a major GILNEAN character, yet is also NOT a Worgen. The Worgen curse is still largely perceived as just that, A CURSE … one that MANY Gilneans (even those that ARE Worgen already) have ZERO intention of passing down to the next generation (both Crowley AND Genn are ADAMANT about this). Yet, somehow, despite ALL of this evidence hinting that yes, perhaps the Kul Tirans ARE meant to be the GILNEAN AR; they cannot possibly be because that means the Alliance cant get another Beast Race AR.

AR’s are counterparts to playable races. Uncursed Gileans are not a playable race of their own, because an uncursed Gilnean is…a…Human. KT is the Human AR.

And … here is where people start making up arbitrary restrictions on ARs to validate their point on this subject. For all respects and purposes the GOBLIN AR is the Vulpera (in that they use the same rig, but have no real connection beyond the fact that they are an economics focused race). From what I can tell the ONLY real rule about ARs is that EACH CORE race is going to get an equivalent (but CULTURE seems to play just as much of a factor as PHYSICAL RACE). For goodness sake, the NE equivalent ended up on the Horde; and the BE equivalent ended up on the Alliance.

I’m not saying its guaranteed, but should the next AR for the Alliance turn out to make more sense for the SW Humans to have; then I wont be surprised. Especially with the fact that there isnt a SINGLE other PC race that relies on the same rigs that the Kul Tirans do, and there isn’t a SINGLE NPC race that relies on the Worgen rigs that makes sense to be their AR atm.

false, they’re the human allied race

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Cuz reasons?

To be fair its possible they still announce Ogres. In fact they could still announce a few more allied races. I can imagine there is a possibility of them getting announced but for me at least Im kinda doubting that considering how many races they can choose from still and thats not counting how many races are pretty much just reskins of other races but with different views on the world and such

nope, you’re just wrong, humans are humans and make more sense to connect the two together wheras worgen still haven’t gotten their allied race; I can understand where you’re trying to make the connection but i’m pretty sure they didn’t connect the two like that

And WHO perchance are the WORGEN AR going to be?

kaldorei worgen given the origination of the worgen curse or possibly bloodfang worgen, especially since they just updated the rig for worgen. i imagine they didn’t do theirs due to the skeletal rig + worgen

can’t really think of a more fitting one aside from night elves getting furbolgs. because night elves haven’t gotten their allied race yet either

and before you say ‘there wouldn’t be any distinguishable difference between the two’ there’s plenty of things they can do to distinguish them from regular worgen, not only that but highmountain tauren are technically just a reskin of tauren so… add that effect onto it.

things they can do - runic markings, tattoos, differing fur colors, ear type differences, making them slightly taller etc

And because… you know… we’re playable on the Horde, but hey, details, right?

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Vulpera have bigger front tails

You mean like how Nightborne are Night Elves but on the Horde side? But hey, details, right?

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That’s the problem. There’a too few of us left from that generation.

Making money is now cartering to furries and casual playstyle.

Business over customs I guess?

I don’t think it matters anyhow. Even though it looks like AR can be paired up with base races to make a combo, I don’t think that’s a hard and fast rule, and so we can’t expect every base race to have a race specific AR.

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Zandalari trolls are based off the Night elf model.

Ayup. See, there aren’t really any rules when it comes to ARs (beyond the fact that in SOME way EACH PC race is going to get one). Sure, the NE’s AR went to the Horde, and the BE AR went to the Alliance. Sure the Goblin’s ended up getting a potential trading partner in the Vulpera, rather than a race related to them. Sure the Zandalari (males at least) are based off the NE rigs, not Troll’s.

The issue with the Worgen is that they don’t really have a culture (their Culture is Gilnean) to play off. They also don’t really have any existing races (aside from MAYBE the NE Worgen) that share their models and make sense for even the Alliance to have; let alone the Worgen. The Saberon? The Sethrak (sitting beside two HORDE races)? So, instead, I’m making the bet that the Kul Tirans (that have a shared HUMAN lineage with Gilneas and have OGRE rigs) are the GILNEAN AR.

In which Alliance got Void Elves. Whether YOU like them or not is immaterial.

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I would love to see the NE worgen as our next allied race! It would help cement the bond between the NEs and Gilneans that has been forming over the last couple of expansions.

I would not be opposed to them if the WERE the Worgen AR. However, I’m just saying I would not be surprised in the slightest if the next (and probably last) Alliance AR was for the SW Humans (and, who knows, I could justify the High Elves taking that slot if it really were the SW Humans that didn’t have their respective AR).