Why did we get Vulpera over Ogres?

Im all just expecting the Worgen Ar to something really dumb, and disappointing with no player demand like let’s say. Players were asking for sethilak, maybe wotlk full on uldar mecha gnomes vs daily filler. But with our luck they could do things like say. The horde attack their shores and surprise surprise some enslaved Saberon joins. Or if they do a different curse, maybe were Panthers and were tigers with tails after the vulpera instead. Or go all deviant art and go what sells to thirteen year olds painting with glitter for their own original :rainbow:twenty colored sparkledog with demon horns half daughter of tyrande and Illidan with maybe some bat and demon wings and manes and massive equipment for good measure. But with our luck, it’ll either be reskinned fat elves or putting a race in a diaper while the horde gets all the good stuff like kings rest and cool asked for allied races for free

Why do people ask for this nonsense?

So! Who would recruit this thing that doesn’t even exist?
Would they be recruited by the Worgen? But they are Night elves!
Are they recruited by the night elves? But they are worgen!

They are no different from current worgen in any sense!
Giving the night elves something that is already in use by the worgen, only decreases the worgen!

Why not something that brings something new that we don’t have yet?

The disappointment that junkgonomes are, isn’t it enough?

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Allright, lets take these points one at a time:

  • Sethrak do not make sense for the Alliance to get, simply because their relationships with them are very limited. They also live right next door to TWO Horde ARs, so the idea that they would effectively TURN on the Zandalari and Vulpera seems very suicidal for THEIR people.
  • TRUE Mechagnomes are NOT a race, and thus cannot be Allied With. They are automatons, that operate off a hive mind. They have no will or no culture, because these things would be antithetical to what they were created to be. Hell, the aren’t even built for combat (and only partake in it if corrupted or malfunctioning).
  • Saberon could not culturally clash with the Alliance more if they try. They make the damned Horde look civilized by comparison, so the only thing they share with the Alliance is their hatred for Orcs. They may share the Worgen rigs, but the share nothing else that makes sense for them to fit into the Alliance Faction.

As for just making up “New Races”. Sure, they could do that. They did that. With Void Elves, and people flipped (yet they still happen to be the MOST played Alliance AR, despite Dark Irons being downright AMAZING). The JunkerGnomes have a ton of creativity put into them, but people really do seem to hate them because they’re Gnomes (how DARE Gnomes and Gnome players get something nice for the first time in 15 years). They are honestly of the quality that we should have expected ALL our ARs to be built to (even if they themselves aren’t and AR that Alliance wanted). But … to each their own on this topic…

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Expect we do know they exist, we locked them away. They are the source of your worgen after all. And i never said they would be a Worgen AR. The NEs would cure them like they did the Gilnean worgen.

I agree but that haven’t done that even once so far for the Alliance. All of our AR are knock offs of existing races with maybe the KT being the exception because they actually took a lot of time build their back story (to bad they screwed up with the model).

Ogres: Big… ugly… only a few people want.

Vulpera: Small… cute… Have had several megathreads dedicated to requesting them as an allied race.

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It makes no sense worgen to catch a race linked to the night elves!
Also, it’s not right for night elves to get a race with the same worgen theme, leaving the worgen themselves without something for them!

We’d better get something else like arakkoas, sethraks or even saberons!

Exactly that! Few people ask for ogres!
Few people promote the idea of ​​ogres!
There is a thread in this forum, talking about ogres, lost somewhere!
Almost nobody moves it with information!
Almost no one comments on him, talking about the idea of ​​ogres as a playable race.

The few threads asking for ogres, has the movement of a glacier!

Apparently people ask little for ogres!
You have to do the same thing that was done by vulperas, sethraks and arakkoas!

You have to create a megathread, and keep it active by spreading the idea and popularizing it!

But if people really want to play with ogres, they can create a kultiran!
It will be the same thing!

Vulperas is like a fire in a forest, watered with gasoline!

Simple ogres suck, Vulpera dont.

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Yeah, I don’t know why over a year later, people still see Alliance sethrak as a possibility. The two interacted for about all of 13 minutes (timing that based on when I last did that foothold chain), they already live in/next to Zandalari territory, and the Horde are the ones who toppled their greatest enemy and saved their loa. And despite all that, Alliance players still insist they can get sethrak for nebulous reasons despite how little sense it would make both in- and out of universe.

Night Elf Worgen Druid…I can see it now:

Worgen Form
Nelf Form
Bear Form
Cat Form
Stag Form
Bird Form
Sea Lion Form
(and you know people will ask about Pack form for a straight up wolf as well)

No, they’re not. And if we had downvotes you’d be in the negative instead of at zero.

: )

OK then! What should we expect as options?
Anything? What is available that we could imagine being relevant to the alliance? Void Junkgnomes?

I wish sethraks could be alliance!
I wish arakkoas could be from the alliance!

But it seems we can’t expect anything!
Just more ridiculous races like kultirans, junkgnomes or void belves?

Rexxar would be a great racial leader for the Ogres, since he is half Ogre and his father Leoroxx is the leader of the mok’nathal a clan of ogre-orc hybrids dwelling in Blade Edge Mountains. Rexxar would be a great way of convincing the Ogres to join the Horde and being the liaison between them.

They just need the team designing the racial models for Warcraft III Reforged to work on Ogres to make them less clunky and more interesting.

:japanese_ogre:

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just My opinion: vulpera are more appealing (cuter) than ogres. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but ‘bigger’ races aren’t very popular; look at Kul Tiran and pandaren. Despite Kul tiran having strong racials, very few play them.

Kultirans has no charisma! Actually, there are many things missing from the kultirans but this is how they were made!

If blizzard wants to keep investing in things that have little appeal to ally, we can only play the vegetative patient or go to the faction that is at least receiving something!

Quite frankly, the only reason Alliance would get Sethrak is because of the popularity of the thread. That’s the grim truth to it.

The thread was super popular and that’s the only, barest reason there’s a chance

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No it isnt. Just look at female Kul’tirans. Theres your female Ogre build.

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The biggest contribution of the kultirans is to make ogres a reality for the horde!

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Actually they are both . Kul Tiras was founded by pre Worgen Gilneas explorers

Kultirans are not recruited by Greymane!