have you killed onyxia and cleaned molten core? I’m waiting for your answer
Money, they wanted to get these servers live with as little investment on their part as possible. That is why.
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Who knew that watching some of the best players would make it look easy? But yeah, i think alot of people are just outraged for the sake of outrage. I don’t understand why people can’t just be happy that were literally playing classic again after 15 years.
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I was initially a little upset learning about the 1.12 patch and the catch-up mechanics. I hadn’t payed attention to prerelease chatter. I had completely forgotten they did this before BC. Most of my memories are from lvling and running 5-15 man raids. It was so much fun and that content is still all there. I was in a decently organized raiding guild. We had MC, Onyxia, and some of the other bosses on farm, but we never made it through all BWL, let alone Nax. These weren’t obtainable goals for most players. You had to be in a very organized guild. Now with Classic 1.12 patch, regular players may have a chance to “beat the game” when they would have never been able to before. I still expect Nax to be hard AF, but now I think it’s a more realistic goal for more people. Think of MC as being the new UBS/LBS. BLW the new MC and so on. I think this will be more fulfilling for more people in the end. There is so much fun stuff to do in this game. I’m convinced there will never be another game like this. Enjoy it while it’s here. We are lucky we got a second chance.
WHY DID BLIZZARD PUT US ON A PATCH WHERE RAIDS CAN BE CLEARED BY NON60S?
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Doesnt matter what patch Blizzard used. Players would clear it regardless if Blizzard used beta patches from 1.0 or all the way to retail 1.12
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Nothing is undertuned. It’s been verified by comparison to internal vanilla builds and the classic build that the numbers/tuning match for virtually everything… and that it was the people’s memories that were wrong as a result.
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Everyone knows by now that the Private Servers made guessimates to get their numbers/tuning (all made up). The devs of the private servers itself came out and stated this. Also the tuning on private servers isn’t as hard as you’re attempting to make it out to be… Guilds on Private servers clear the raids on day one too… For example AQ’40 on Light’s Hope private server was cleared in 58 minutes the moment it opened… Naxx was beaten within 2 hours, etc… Also you’re neglecting the fact that the guild who cleared MC in Classic was a guild from the private servers… and the reason why they did it so fast is because they had a ton of experience of doing so.
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How is this thread even still alive? It’s the same regurgitated posts over and over again at this point 
Pservers were overtuned, the best players in the game cleared it, and you can still watch guilds wiping in MC on twitch right now, while most guilds dont even have enough high level characters to even attempt the same thing, assuming they have the skill.
Method clears mythic raids in 2 weeks, most retail players cant go past the first boss on mythic. The best players clearing content doesnt mean its just as easy for the rest of the players.
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People expect Blizzard to polish up and debug up to 12 patches so they can have their vanilla progression experience. Just play the game and quit whining.
Yet, if Method cleared a mythic raid at 110 and greens there would be an uproar and rightly so.
They had to Start somewhere.
Maybe this was the Easiest Patch to build off of, or the most cost efficient.
Maybe this Patch was one that would take the least man hours to get up and running.
You know they just might do that, in about 10 years. After running those 110 raids, over and over, and over and …
Yep, this isn’t Vanilla. This is Retail v2.0, just a way to cater to casuals and keep their subs going.
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Not typical is an understatement.
It may have taken them three days, but that’s THREE 24 HOUR DAYS. So, call it 65-72 (not sure exactly how long it took them) hours.
For me, that’s probably 55-85 DAYS of playtime. To get to 60.
With no professions, time out for talking, guild building or other parts of the actual game.
That’s just a straight pound yourself against a wall.
And that’s not typical, that’s insane.
Or pound yourself against endless 10-man Scarlet Monastery runs to exploit the raid XP bug… which might be worse.
Plus most of the retail screechers are just pot stirring, their info shows they haven’t cleared anything. I would bet good money the people who are actually doing mythics now don’t care if Rag was killed on a classic server.
Oooohh … I forgot about that. So, that was part of how they were able to get to 60 so fast. Good to know.
Staysafe’s guild that quin is in*
So you didn’t want AQ?
You seem to not be able to read correctly. I dont think hes saying 1.12 numbers should be modified. He is most likely talking about patch progression and not starting classic at 1.12.
He has a point vanilla was not this easy in when people were first getting into MC. It does diminish the vanilla experience because…well its not how vanilla was. 1.12 vanilla is completely different from 1.0 vanilla.
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Isn’t the attunement quest for MC level 55? If that’s the case, doesn’t that seem like pre-60 raiding was intended?
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