Why did blizzard implement warmode and destroy the concept of PvE and PvP servers?

The other crazy thing is a lot of people who support a PvP server are not even in this forum. Occasionally, I ask people in war mode that I’ve teamed up with if they would like a pvp server in retail and almost all of them say yes.

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A sole pvp server is bound to be populated by players just there to farm rare mounts. And shocker, people participating in pvp are opened to a pvp server. Surprise of the century.

I don’t think we need pvp servers at all…World PvP is a casual activity, We just need better gameplay and rewards that’ll incentieve that interaction for WM ON.

For example, Legion PvP quest were 10000s better that what we received during BFA / SL, DF.

I don’t know… world PvP lost its luster for me probably sometime during Cata - can only do it so much.

This right here…

Some of the best raiding guilds and PvE players where on PvP servers. Despite majority of players having no real interest in PvP. I can not say it was the best choice or the right choice. But its what they did.

“Look at all my anecdotal evidence. I don’t know why Blizzard won’t listen to me when they have objective data for all players.”

this is probably more correct than anyone will admit to.

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Would would it be populated by players farming mounts? You don’t need a pvp server to do that.

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World pvp isn’t really supposed to be the only thing you do in a pvp server. We can still play the game, but maybe have that added world pvp when it happens. I’m not trying to say the only thing you do on a pvp server is world pvp all the time. I do raids/BG/occasionally farm a mount every once in a great while myself. Options are a good thing.

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Well of course not but there’s a tradeoff. The real question is do you welcome those types of altercations out in the world… as I got more tired of world pvp that answer became no. That’s my point. I’m not saying they shouldn’t do it, I’m just saying I wouldn’t participate for my own reasons.

Exactly. PvP servers bring a sense of danger to the world that just doesn’t exist anymore. Having to watch your back and peek around corners adds weight to an otherwise ethereal world. The unexpeted diversion you sometimes have to take to take care of some trouble makers adds flavor to an otherwise bland and predictable experience. Some of us want that back desperately. The people who hated it, whatever their reasons, can safely stay away.

Just because you hate chocolate, doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t have access to it. Vilifying those people as sadists doesn’t help anybody. This “ganking” thing comes up over and over, no matter how many times we make it clear we don’t want those “victims” on the server in the first place.

All he had to do was implement my solution to ganking… you get three strikes (account wide) kill any character 20 or more levels below you is a strike .

Third time that character you ganked with … auto deletes.

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Oh I see why you’re saying. Yeah totally fine if you don’t join. I hope you enjoy the server your are already on. And can stay there. But unfortunately some people are saying, because they don’t like it, we shouldn’t have it.

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the old ways, the old names

Having separate servers for PvP/PvE isn’t resource efficient. There’s over 200 WoW servers and probably only 10% or less of the population actually does world PvP.

People on the forums are not the ones you have to convince of this. It’s Blizzard. We’re just giving our opinions.

yup, we are just renters, blizz owns the house

Because players wouldn’t flag PVP and then stand on top of any mob you might want to fight to try to get you to use an AOE to get yourself flagged so they can force you into PVP? Because PVP players on PVP servers wouldn’t bring full raids of 40 people to camp lower level players in the level 30 zones once players were in contested territory (and when I say camp, I don’t mean kill a couple times, I mean literally make the zone unplayable for hours until you rallied a band of your own faction to try to clear out the enemies)?

You can throw around whatever insults you want toward players who found themselves on PVP servers despite making the wrong choice, the reality is PVP players aren’t angels simply trying to make their way through the world, either. So long as PVP is going to exist along faction lines, and there is no way to protect players at some point from the opposing faction, imbalanced factions will lead to significant player experience issues.

Like I said in a previous response, I wouldn’t have an issue with this suggestion. By all means, let’s get a PVP server.

My concern is what happens next. How long after the inevitable faction imbalance forms on the server and the disadvantaged side no longer has people logging in will it take before there are cries for more servers to be added? Or for more changes to existing servers to force more PVP upon the player base?

A mystery PVP players are still trying to figure out because they’re booming on Classic servers.

The warning sign of joining a PVP server was there. Really, good PVP server got ruined because of this.

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Being a renter isn’t bad you can do things like pour grease down the drain and not care