I mean, you claimed gdkp is like gambling
Pretty clear you dont understand how it works
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Goodness gracious, you just CANâT move forward can you? CLEARLY, since that interaction I have NOT called it that since have I? Didnât think so.
Iâll call it AH Raiding, though.
Though, if AH Raiding could be treated like (keyword) in-game gambling (not saying that it is, for those âat the readyâ to be like âitâs not gambling, RREEEâ), would solve everyoneâs problems.
Itâs funny though 'cause Iâve NEVER advocated for the removal of AH Raiding. Iâm one of the few anti-AH Raiding who does NOT want to remove AH Raiding. I just find the reasoning from pro-AH Raiders rather silly and quite self entitled, but thatâs OK.
Keep ripping off the WoW community! Iâm more disappointed in the PARTICIPANTS than the AH Raiding, itself.
You know the whole âhate the player not the gameâ kind of thing.
EDIT: I actually probably would partake in AH Raiding (like with a tight knit guild or something), if it was advertised better. Right now, the advertisements feel gross and repel me away.
EDIT 2: The main reason I keep reading to keep AH Raiding in tact is the same âI want to be paid for my timeâ statement. Are you serious? Not a community I want to represent. No, thank you.
Since, when did it change from âhave fun with my guildâ to âI want something for my timeâ? I can understand on a mature server when your toon is decked out to jump on a GDKP and carry for gold. But to do it week in and week out for what? To have endless amount of gold? to boost up ur alts? just to run some GDKPs on that fresh 60? You see the cycle there? its not a healthy one for the commuting.
Yesterday. I ran a ZG with like 4 or 5 naxx geared people. They were so nice and helpful. I joined their guild. Weâre running MC tonight. Its a SR guild. Iâm ok with that.
I will NEVER run a GDKP. Its just not the way I like to play the game.
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The cycle of running gdkp on geared mains to get gold to then buy gear on your new alts in gdkps is the entire thing keeping era alive.
There is no future content phases to prep for.
Its completely unrealistic to expect people to endlessly run the same raids over and over on their full bis characters âjust for funâ, or to âhelp outâ, that only lasts so long, on a server forever stuck at the same progression phase for eternity you need an endless endgame loop to keep people going, and gdkp raids are exactly that.
Anyone can work on their own endgame goals, you can buy bis gear for your meme specs that no guild would ever let you roll on before peoples mainspecs, people are incentiveized to full run each raid and not leave after their loot doesnât drop and everyone ends a run with something to show for it.
You guys keep clinging to this idealistic utopia where nobody ever gets bored of classic wow raiding and will just continue to raid every week for eternity just because. That works on a fresh progression server but is not sustainable on a server forever stuck in phase 6 stasis.
Gdkp raiding is why era can continue to survive, every player can use all their characters to further their goals on any and all of their other characters. It is the solution to creating a sustainable and engaging endgame loop without the need for new content or relying on other players goodwill.
Ive noticed everyone that talks about their soft res guilds on classic are always stuck in tier 1 or at best tier 2 content. Most people have goals past the first half of the games endgame content and i have yet to see any of these soft res guilds actually get that far, because their rosters are always bleeding players once they progress past needing mc/bwl, because guess what, most people arenât gonna stick around to clear content they no longer need when they see other people not only clearing the content they need, but doing it twice as fast and earning thousands of gold at the same time. The honeymoon phase of being a fresh 60 progressing MC with the boys wears off sooner or later.
Also, believe it or not, most of the organized gdkp groups have just as much if not more social interaction as progression guilds, because most of the players in them are the same people every week, its not some souless transactional exchange that anti gdkp people want to paint it out to be, its just raiding with the boys and making gold while doing it.
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How with boosts? The same people running GDKPs are no way in hell leveling the old fashion way. They sure are keeping the world and era alive. =P
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I just hit 60 on a warlock on Wednesday leveling the old fashion way while running every raid lockout in a gdkp with my shaman in the meantime. Just did my raids and leveled my warlock when i wasnât raiding, no need to rush, by the time i hit 60 i had made 20k gold that i can now use to gear them with.
Also, theres more to classic wow then people lvling to 60, theres that whole raiding and pvp endgame that gdkp raids facilitate
Its like he doesnt understand the fact that the majority of people who GDKP also raid with their guild on other toons. He really has 0 idea what hes even talking about
Oh, Owns you silly rabbit.
I mean its true. You just keep displaying your ignorance of the topic.
You have an opinion. No more, no less. kthxbai.
Notice how its the people that refuse to run gdkp, thus have very little experience on the topic that have all these negative opinions about it.
Its almost like youâre letting your preexisting biases and assumptions inform your opinion rather than actual experience.
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I havent ran any but I have seen a lot of streamers run them, ALOT.
I have said the original version is not what is currently version has turned into. You for example are probably in the .1%. I have also heard terrible stories about them. Itâs not the way I like to play the game so therefor I wont join on. If you are ok with it⌠continue to do you.
I joined a guild that are running raids the way I like to play em. Iâm happy and Iâm sure you are happy taking whales gold.
You cant base anything off of what the streamers are doing. Theyâre monetarily incentivized to make GDKPs look like people are spending millions in them, to have people bidding things up and that is not the case in the overwhelming majority of GDKPs.
Iâm done with my opinion on this matter. I dont like it, I wont run ever. I will stop playing first. Its a very small percentage of DKPS that arent toxic and dont use whalers that buy gold and ruin the economy and community. But it seems like you guys canât admit to that and believe 80%+ are good for the game.
I disagree. =)
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Its actually a higher percentage of them that dont have whales that buy gold. Again, you should just stop talking about that which you know nothing about.
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And you continue to show how dense of an individual you are. I shouldâve put you on ignore a while back.
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How am I the dense one if youâre just spewing ignorant nonsense.
No, itâs not. Not everyone plays Era for the same reasons. Youâd be surprised how many people play this game and raiding is NOT their âend goalâ.
I agree. Too bad Iâm not.
âEndgameâ doesnât always mean âRaidingâ.
I feel like you can do this on SR, too (minus the AH part).
I can understand this concern in a PuG situation. In a Guild situation, itâs hardly the case.
Here we go! Had to put in that âbragging rightâ oi vey 
No, this is you putting words into our mouths.
Even I take breaks from the game, in general, and Leveling is my goal.
Itâs important to take breaks, even in an AH Raiding culture.
Itâs not sustainable even in a âfreshâ. People NEED breaks, and thatâs OK.
No. Itâs the âpopular thingâ sure, but Iâve seen the way the HC community built their own utopia on an RP server.
And, that one Alliance player on a Horde dominated PvP server flip the scripts.
You only THINK AH Raiding is âkeeping Era aliveâ, when itâs just another âpopularâ outlet tool, for anyone interested.
If I had more time, Iâd build my own Utopian outlet that does NOT contain AH Raiding 'cause IK itâs possible. Unfortunately, I have a 7mo old to TC of. Otherwise, I love flipping scripts 
Everyone? EVERYONE? Maybe some but not EVERYONE.
Yes, everyone has different priorities. Glad we understand this.
Yes, gotta âpay for peopleâs timeâ 'cause theyâre oh so important. It ALWAYS leads back to this!
THIS is the message (keyword) Iâm advidly AGAINST, when it comes to the defense of AH Raiding. That and thinking AH Raiding is what âkeeps Era aliveâ. How self-centered and self-absorbed can the AH Raiding defenders be?
You donât seem to understand that I do NOT want to remove AH raiding! I just cannot stand along side its DEFENDERS and their self-absorbed mindset. It turns me off from wanting to help protect it.
Thatâs why Guild (keyword) AH Raiding I (and probably others) donât mind. Itâs the PuG AH Raiding where the âexchangeâ happens. You said it, yourself, in OTHER AH Raiding threads that itâs the âbetter solutionâ for PuGs.
And the other AH Raiding advocate said if theyâre gonna PuG, theyâre not looking to âmake friendsâ and uses the AH Raiding toolkit as a crutch to âcarryâ their âpossibleâ new âfriendsâ HENCE itâs a âserviceâ/âtransactionâ/âexchangeâ.
These are YOUR sides words! Not something my side âmade upâ.