Yeah it sucks.
A year ago my guild said they’d never run a GDKP.
Fast forward to present day, they won’t let you run Naxx without AQ40 bis and only run AQ40 as GDKP
You mean dead realms?
Easy to claim a realm doesn’t have any gdkp raids when you dont have enough players to fill a raid period.
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This sounds like you’re describing an employment position at a casino. This is sad.
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Better ‘dead’ than soulless!
It allows players to play the game without the need for a commitment to a guild. I for one think GDKPs are the best way, because as a geared player I can MC/BWL and get gold to pay for my consumes and gear I will be purchasing in Naxx. To each their own I guess, but the GDKPs I run with are not 30 geared players and 10 clueless noobs. Everyone is expected to play their class to their full potential and make the run smooth, no carries.
Generally, they hyperfixate on certain areas and your average audit isn’t really a “deep dive” at all (in my experience as a cpa and former gman).
That would be one way, sure.
Respectfully, I do see the attraction of “letting the people decide” but imo it’s a bit too challenging for Blizzard with differing rulesets in multiple versions of the game. If they change their stance it should be for all iterations of the game.
I’m in a guild that uses LC and it has never been an issue. But as they say your mileage may vary. I have the same attitude towards GDKP - it’s fine in theory. There has been some super bad implementation and I won’t deny that it encourages as well as facilitates illicit rmt.
Do we advocate that Blizzard deem it out of bounds or do we as players continue to support only the policies we feel are appropriate? Before I start asking Blizzard to outlaw a player-created loot distribution system, I will be insisting the company get gud removing the sources of rmt from the game.
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You’re right, man. I hate playing the game. I should pay $15 a month so I can pretend to play the game on a dead realm.
What’s the going rate for Tokens nowadays?
lol yep, you’re right.
Despite has been trying to recruit for their dead realm for 2 years.
Heck if I know, I don’t use 'em.
But hey, at least I actually get to play the game.
You pay to play retail WoW. That’s nothing to brag about m8!
I found a guild that runs old raids on alts with SR. I’m super happy so far… hunters are decked out so I think i’ll get geared out in no time. Nice to see geared out Naxx players helping too… and guess what? they arent getting anything out of it. But helping out guildies. My kind of people…
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GDKP is the best (and only viable) loot system for very late P6 servers like era, the only problem is the people buying a ton of gold. This is annoying when someone saves up a month’s worth of cuts for a BiS item only to lose to a new person who swiped their card. Other than that it’s perfect - accommodates people who like play the AH or farm solo, and everyone gets rewarded even if they get no items.
You’re welcome to spend 3 hours in molten core during a MS>OS or 2SR run and then lose a roll to someone in greens, or you can clear it in an hour with the help of 20 AQ40+ geared players who just want 300-400g to put towards their consumables or bids for naxx.
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Gross, no thanks!
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You lose a roll, you lose a roll. Seems fair, to me. Especially, the one in Greens who actually needs it, I don’t see the problem. And, um, even with the most “scrub” players, MC doesn’t take 3hrs LOL.
I’m never going to buy my way into a raid. That sounds silly. As the point of raiding is to work together to kill some bosses and winning gear is an added bonus. Raiding isn’t a job nor a service. You can try to attempt to make them jobs/services, but I’m never going to.
Just because I’m mostly a Solo’er, doesn’t mean I don’t Raid. When, I do, it’s a potential to make some friends, along the way. I’m sure finding friends can happen in AH Raiding, I just don’t want to buy it. That’s not how I like to build my relationships.
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Player in greens does 100 dps, dies multiple times, bombs the raid on Baron, and then wins the only item the people carrying the raid still need. I saw this happen 2 weeks ago, and multiple times in 2019 classic.
You can be fine with it, that’s ok. I’m not going into a raid where that happens.
This is why GDKP exists. I’m not going to spend hours of my time carrying people in a raid where I need nothing. Again, you can be fine with it and that’s ok, but I don’t have time for that.
Think of the gold as DKP and it makes more sense. You don’t just “buy” things and then swipe your credit card to top up, you earn a cut each raid and save up over time. You can just use the DKP for more things like consumes and other runs.
It REALLY depends on how the Loot System works. Even in MS > OS / SR systems, you can still be capped on how much loot, you get (or none, at all, which was mostly me as I was told, to my face, I wouldn’t get anything which is fine).
If it’s a sloppy Loot System where it’s indefinite MS > OS / SR, I can see that being a problem.
AH Raiding still makes it a job or service. As you clearly said it, here:
I’m not interested in buying your “service” to raid.
You’re still buying things hence “buying”.
Minus the “Credit Card” bit, you’re still BUYING gear! That is BUYING things!
I make my own consumes. I’m pretty self-sufficient. I “make gold” but not spending it on silly things like AH Raiding, abilities I don’t need, recipes I don’t need, etc.
Why would you even do a raid then? I clearly value my time more than you value yours. At least in a GDKP you get something to then save up and use to actually buy something.
I don’t think you have ever been in a GDKP raid, or experienced guilds with different loot systems. You should look up “SR” it’s obvious you don’t know what it means.
I said it, already:
The Reputation is nice, too. I mean, there’s nowhere else outside of Raids (that I can think of, anyway) to raise my Hydraxxian Waterlords, Zandalar Tribe and all that fun stuff, Rep.
Oh, yes, you’re so important 
Yes, 'cause it’s all about MONEY (which is what Gold is, in this game). “PAY ME for my time” ridiculous
It’s been explained to me, several times. You’re bidding/buying gear and paying “leet folks” such as yourself, for “your time”.
I have.
IK what SR means. It’s Soft Reserve. Depending on who is running the SR run, SR can work in different ways.
I’ve had SR runs where you can only SR 1 item, THEN you’re MS > OS on ONE item, then your OS, for the rest of the run.
I’ve had SR runs where its SR 1 item, THEN its MS > OS until you win something before you’re booted onto OS.
But, keep telling ME how much “I don’t understand loot systems”