I get that but from my point of view and what I’m seeing, it’s NOT the majority. You and I are in the same boat in thinking it’s a gross practice, but I just don’t think it should be banned. If it’s treated like Gambling (which, I don’t want to argue that it is or isn’t, I’m talking about the way Gambling is treated), it would solve a lot of problems/issues.
Gdkps do not subvert the design of loot being bop…
You still need to actually be in the raid and kill the boss just like any other raid group.
Its not much different than a loot council giving someone loot for a specific reason or a regular dkp raid bidding out loot with imaginary currency
The difference is every person in that raid group gets to share the gold being spent on won bids instead of items just going to someone and everyone else getting nothing.
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We have always had GDKP in WoW even from the very first days of original WoW. It was just called something else and now all you people keep spamming GDKP everywhere as though you just discovered something.
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This is so stupid. If they are bidding t9 drive the price up then just let them take it. When they end up having to pay then they will stop doing it. But they already knkw that which is why your post is fake.
People were opposed to the cancer back then and still are now.
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Not everyone is opposed to it… Your argument is personal opinion.
Reading your posts crying about it is pure gold though. Please keep posting the comedic commentary.
What Blizz needs to do is help out raid leaders to put GDKP Ledgers and bidding in game.
More trash for the pile!
Which?
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In a regular DKP raid everyone in the raid gets DKP for killing bosses. You save it up over time in order to win bids on BIS gear or whatever you want. The only tangible difference between GDKP and DKP is that you can swipe for GDKP to spend without putting in the time raiding. Well, that and DKP doesn’t work for PUGs.
If Blizz really wanted to kill gold-selling, they could add an official DKP that does work in PUGs, and make GDKP against TOS. But, buying gear is what Blizzard wants, they just want to be the ones selling it. Token inc. RMT kills games, classic will be no different.
Thing is, you dont have to swipe to be in a GDKP and I would assume that the majority of people in them do not. Im sure we diagree on that and that is fine but in the overwhelming majority of GDKPs that Ive been in there has very rarely been someone who bidded high enough or often enough to give the perception they had bought gold and only one time has there been someone in the GDKP I was in that was banned during the raid for having bought gold.
People were buying gold for consumables, should Blizzard make consumables against TOS too? If after going on 4 years of playing a game someone has to buy gold that tells me they suck at making gold.
“/who stratholme” disagrees. There are bots everywhere and gold selling is a big business. You can’t tell me that in a game where BIS gear is purchased with gold that the entire gold selling economy is only selling to people who can’t figure out how to buy their epic mount. Even if a majority don’t buy gold (which is probably true) that doesn’t mean it isn’t a huge problem.
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So there are a lot of players that suck at making gold which created a large market. That doesnt mean that the only gold being bought is for GDKPs either, people were buying gold so they wouldnt have to farm for consumables.
Sure I can. Since the gold selling was a big problem back in the day before GDKPs even became prominent in WoW. What were those people buying it for?
Huh? You might want to re-read what you quoted. You’re actually suggesting no one (or close) who does GDKP is buying gold and the only people buying gold are noobs who need an epic mounts? Are you serious? Lol.
Just because there was a market in 2004 before GDKP doesn’t mean the new meta is somehow not participating in that market.
Why would you prefer GDKP to an official DKP? There’s only one answer.
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Ive never stated that noone or close to noone who does GDKP isnt buying gold.
In a pug I would prefer GDKP, over any alternate loot system because no matter whether I win loot or not I leave with something. In a guild I prefer loot council or MS>OS because GDKPs dont make sense as a guild loot system.
The market for buying gold was certainly bigger when there was 12 million players and before GDKP became prominent than it is when the population is 400,000.
By “official DKP”, I mean a DKP currency that is made by blizzard, and can only be earned by raiding. You would leave with DKP that would work in any official DKP raid. It’s just GDKP where you can’t buy the DKP with real money.
No pug would use DKP.
Official DKP, as described in the quote, is identical to GDKP except you can’t RMT the kill points. So you’re just saying no PUG would run a raid without RMT?
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No I misread it. However theres no need to do all that. Just ban RMTers.
Dont waste ur time Nastytusk. You are talking to people that have no problem taking whalers gold. Points they could carry from raid to raid wont be the same for them.
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The Classic Era realms that aren’t free Xfer destinations have small, GDKP-free communuties.
For reference, the PvE West Cluster is composed of 4 realms:
While the 13 PvP East realms are made up of 2 separate clusters of 5 and 8 realms:
Additionally, 3 OCE PvP realms are clustered:
Further, the RP realms of:
- Grobulus (RP-PvP West)
- Deviate Delight (RP-PvP East)
- and Bloodsail Buckaneers (RP-PvE) *
are available.
As you can see, there is no shortage of places to choose for playing Classic Era outside of the free Xfer realms.
*Bloodsail Buckaneers is currently host to a large portion of the ‘hardcore’ (1 Life, no revives) playerbase.
Another Note: All Classic Era realms/clusters (east/west/pve/pvp/rp) are pooled together for the purposes of battlegrounds. BG queues are identical no matter where you choose to play.
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