You know why players don’t Stay. Class skill balanced that effect both pvp and pve. If skills were to have a PVP effect and PVE effect then balance one would not cripple the other. You can tweak classes to be smoother in one content without making them absolutely overpowered in another.
That and a very poor path for player progression outside of group content.
You didn’t even get far enough to meet Emet-Selch. You are missing out, or maybe it’s best, wow story was way more palatable before I was exposed to FF14.
Well in FF7 I just got to Costa Del Sol and right now my thinking is “why the hell is the internet so obsessed with this Sephiroth guy?”, so I might not think it’s amazing.
Though I also don’t play WoW for the story. The lore was interesting, but the story of the last few expansions has just been terrible either way.
I think there’s overlap of people who liked sephiroth and people who liked Emet Selch, but a LOT of the love for sephiroth is because most of the fan base grew up on FF7. Same reason arthas and illidan are so popular, even if they’re both shallow, and fairly boring characters. Sephiroth is one of the least interesting final fantasy characters, certainly one of the lamest of the villains.
When are you going to stop kicking my dog? What, you say your not kicking my dog? But I asked when you are going to stop.
Now what’s wrong with that question? Well it assumes facts not in evidence. Not only are you not kicking my dog but I don’t even have a dog.
Likewise, how do you know “we can’t attract new players to stay and play WoW?” If we don’t even know if that assumption is true, what sense does it make to explain why it is true?
It’s like me asking you when you will stop kicking my dog.
I just want people to stop and think “What 20 year old game is attracting new players?” before they think they’re a genius and create a topic title “THIS is why WoW can’t get new players!”
I had to pay to skip a huge chunk of the story. That main quest line is WAY too long and the fact you have to do it made me hate that game tbh. People talking about how new player friendly it is must not care about getting to the end game quick.
If you want to get to cap and get raid ready, FF is one of the least new player friendly MMOs on the market. Then once you get there, to me it felt like a worse version of WoW with much less polish and a way worse gear progression. The combat is so repetitive. I don’t mean MMO repetitive. I mean you literally hit the exact same buttons in the exact same order on 30 trash packs per dungeon. FF14 is way overrated imo.
The cinematics for the game look great but lets face it, the game itself looks like something from the Playstation 3 era, they can tweak the engine all they like but it’s still just going to be lipstick on a pig without a modern engine.
I know you guys love to go on about how it’s the art style and WoW needs to be able to run on a toaster, but the truth is that the game takes a really decent PC to run well and we’d be a lot better off if the game had a new modern engine. I just don’t think Blizzard will want to invest that kind of time and money in retooling a half dead game in a dying genre.
I think the lack of new player interest/retention has more to do with MMOs being dated as a genre, newbies being force funneled into BFA and it’s punishing dungeons, the incredibly jumbled and confusing storyline with Chromie Time and old world Azeroth being frozen in Cata still, the deeply toxic community that is hostile rather than welcoming to new players, etc.
What’s with all of this FOMO whining all of a sudden? It’s always been a thing. We didn’t burn the house down when the Scarab Lord title, ZG tiger, or Black and White Proto Drakes were taken away.
It’s all personal preference at the end of the day. I don’t play ffxiv much because I think the races are boring and I don’t default to gw2 because the end game is more tailored to solo play.
Word of mouth. A lot of players that are upset at the direction of WoW since “insert expansion” most likely do not suggest to others to try it.
If I am talking to others about games WoW is never in those conversations unless someone brings it up and I am playing it at the time which is very rare these days. I do not like the bland classes personally and how unfun it has become so I do not even think to bring up WoW to anyone except those that play when I happen to be playing which is a very short list.
Only once in my life has some stranger asked me about WoW and that was when they saw me buying a physical game time card. I told them that they can try the first 20 levels for free and decide after that. Does not require them to lose anything other than the time to DL and try it.
If they want me to promote their game with word of mouth, they have got to make the classes more fun and stop removing that in which players find fun. That meme “Fun detected” didn’t get made up it is exactly what Blizz does. Who plays games that they do not find fun? Not I. I play games I enjoy.
Don’t care, I enjoy having items people can’t get and I wouldn’t play a game where everything was available to everyone at any time. Those new players who cry over this can enjoy that trash FF game all they want.
Lol, I started WOW late like 2018 you don’t see me crying about it, do you? Besides, I feel like FFXIV is the worse game for new players. The game is overwhelming for new players.
LMAO hahaha so false it isn’t even funny. FFXIV is no where near as new player friendly as WoW. I tried out FFXIV again about 6 months ago and such a horrible experience. I had no clue about needing to do new spell quests as I was never directed too.
Not only that, I ended at a place where all I could do was the main story quests because I out leveled all the other ones where I was getting only like 2200 xp but the main story quests are gated to HAVING to do dungeons. So you get to sit in queue for 45 mins just so you can do it and then turn in the quest to continue the chain and since that is the only way I can get real XP instead of 2200 or less when I need hundreds of thousands.
Horrible design gating behind dungeons to continue. At least WoW doing the dungeons are optional and won’t prevent you in advancing in the story and just there if you want to finish it.
So yeah. If you think WoW is not new player friendly then video games aren’t for you. WoW is like the AOL of MMOs where it caters to new players. FFXIV is quite the opposite.
Also, your post makes absolute 0 sense. You talk about gated items then say this is why FFXIV is more new player friendly? How does that even have anything to do with new player friendliness? Why would a new person need an item/mount/title from a time they never even played the game?
Sounds mostly like you are a ffxiv fanboi and just trying for WoW players to pay attention to you.
As a side note, FFXIV has been losing players pretty fast. Come the 28, WoW will easily pass them yet again.