Too bad popularity isn’t a force for change. Its a little too allchanges for the devs and TBC.
Also for a guy thats not making any claims you sure do make a lot of claims.
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No, it’s an easily verifiable fact that many people have said on this forum that they made an off spec to tank or heal when dual spec was added and would do so again. Just as it’s an easily verifiable fact that many people are complaining on the forum about servers getting low population. Just as it’s an easily verifiable fact that very few people on this forum request transmog be added to TBC. Just as it’s an easily verifiable fact that there were forum threads with a few thousand replies complaining when blizzard limited dungeons to 30 per day.
Your or my interpretation of those facts and what they mean is an opinion.
I hate to teach basic English to an adult when it’s something that should be learned in elementary school but you literally said that I “literally” said something. Now you claim you were paraphrasing. Which is it? Do you realize that literally and paraphrase have very different definitions?
https: //www. sovereignvalley. com/do-you-use-quotes-when-paraphrasing/
Paraphrases and summaries do not use quotation marks and require the author’s last name and year of publication.
Your grasp of the English language is extremely poor. It’s tiresome to deal with it.
Thats hearsay.
It’s a simple observation gained from reading the forum that can be easily proved if you contest it. Several people have predicted that dual spec will not be added to TBCC. That’s not hearsay. It’s a correct observation gained from reading the forum.
Commenting on hearsay doesn’t make hearsay something other than hearsay. Like how brainwashed are you by your own BS? Its just you commenting on hearsay. Youre commenting on hearsay and saying what they’re are saying is straight facts because its a fact that you read it. They said it so it must be true.
Then insult peoples intelligence like you arent exposing how frail your grasp is on reality let alone this topic.
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Oh? so now you are claiming not a single person would use dual spec to tank/heal?
Is that what I said Captain Strawman? No, Im not claiming people would never use dual specs to tank and heal.
Im disputing the narrative that states these people are going to substantially lower pug dps queue times because of dual specs.
Role shortages are inherent to the genre not a lack of specialization options. Youre argument is bunk. Dual specs were never intended to address role shortages and wont do it by accident or because you can find a way to believe it.
Players dont fix problems, they create them - like role shortages. Dual specs arent a behavior modification tool that makes people more friendly. The in your face entitlement that wants dual specs is going to breed friendly pug tanks and healers and make a noticeable improvement in pug dps queue times.
Thats what you want me to believe and then act shocked when I dont.
You could claim that all the people who said they made a tank or healer when dual spec was added or would do so again are lying. Their direct testimony of what they did when dual spec was added could be accurate or a lie but if they are lying it doesn’t become hearsay. And you cannot claim that my factual observation that many people have posted that on the forum is hearsay. It’s a simple fact that many people have posted that they made a tank or healer off spec when dual spec was added or they would do so if it was added again.
I dont have to assume anything. You cant prove it and that’s the point. I dont have to disprove what you cant prove. Its negated on the fact that you cant prove it. Pretty synonymous of this whole discussion really. All you can say is you heard them say it and thats hearsay and not evidence.
You think your opinions are facts and facts are opinions. The fact that all this needs explaining says a lot. So yeah, again, good luck with all your “feedback”.
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Eh, yes we can there’s tons of people in every dual spec thread explaining exactly how they would use dual spec which includes tanking/healing.
So yeah, okay, you favor hearsay because it says everything you want to hear and believe.
Just a reminder the rest of us dont have to go numb and believe. Im sure lots and lots of people would use dual specs in TBC, I fall way short of saying life gets super amazing because of it. Thats subjective anyway.
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All I can prove is that many people have posted on the forum that they would tank or heal if dual spec is added. I tend to believe they are being honest because I also made a resto off spec when dual spec was added and will do it again when dual spec is added. You can believe them or call them all liars. But you can’t prove that either. /shrug
It really does.
Glad to see the anti dual spec crowd’s still using “nahhh u wouldn’t” as an argument against those of us that say we’d use our second spec to tank and heal.
Solid counterargument as always.
What else do we have, dual spec with regards to the tank and healer shortage? Ah yes “anything that alleviates a problem less than 100% isnt worth doing at all”. Yeah great argument too, I guess we should just do nothing then.
Then that Rallyna guy rocks up and claims “I have thirteen LOGICAL and VALID reasons why dual spec shouldn’t be a thing in TBC” and opens with “its too much work for the devs”, you know, the same feature that literally HAS to be coded for wrath in a year anyway.
And corpseknife continuing to use words he doesn’t quite understand the meaning of, like hearsay.
Good effort, I’ll be back again next week for my next dose of brain damage from you guys.
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I can prove there are people who have posted that they dont want dual specs, so what? You cant prove they are actually going to do it which is why its hearsay. You definitely cant prove that they are going to use it in such a way that its going to improve dungeon queues.
What do personal beliefs have to do with an intellectual discussion? Your blind faith in what WoW players say is not a fact that you can use when someone is asking you for legit proof of your claims. This is just basic stuff to grasp, the elementary is beyond you and your fan club. Yall lost but just refuse to believe it. /shrug
Not an effective jab since Im not trying to. I dont have to disprove what you cant prove. You have to prove it - that’s how this works. - and its already been proven that you cant. Its already been proven that you cant because when pressed for actual evidence to back your claim all you provide is hearsay - something that somebody said that you cant substantiate.
But yeah Im wrong just like the devs who wont even acknowledge your request for dual specs. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Then that claim is not hearsay. It’s an easily proved correct observation of what you read on the forum. I could ask you to prove it and if you couldn’t I could call it a lie, but not hearsay. Since I’ve read the forums I know it’s a fact, not an opinion. Just as my claim that many have posted that they made a tank and healer off spec when dual spec was added and would do it again is not hearsay. Hearsay is not defined as anything a person said that someone heard. You’re using the word wrong. look it up in a dictionary.
That’s not what hearsay is. If I heard you say something that is evidence. If I heard Feywaif say you said something… that is hearsay.
Having quotes of people saying they would use dual spec to heal/tank IS evidence. Saying you saw a thread where someone said people would use dual spec to heal/tank is hearsay.
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Here is evidence.
IF dual spec was introduced I would 100% roll a paladin and using him to tank dungeons while leveling him Ret.
Because that’s exactly what I plan to do for Wrath, cause Pally tanks are OP in Wrath. But because I don’t want to spend gold to respec, or level as Prot, I’m waiting.
That’s what I’m doing with my druid though I did level her solo to 60 as feral. I’ll leave her there until dual spec is added, then make a resto spec and level her as a healer in dungeons and quest as dps. That’s exactly what I did with my druid in the original vanilla, BC and wrath. I even gave most of my characters the same names I used in the original.
Whelp…
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That’s the point. Leaving aside his incorrect usage of “hearsay” his basic claim is we’re all lying because we can’t prove we did or will make a tank or healer offspec for dungeons when dual spec is added. By that standard I can simply reject all his arguments by saying he can’t prove that he actually doesn’t want dual spec.
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