They think theyre the ones wearing the somechanges mantle but in a delicious fit of irony while also laughably strawmanning nochanges its the no dual spec folk who are actually somechanges with the pro dual spec guys being allchanges. TBCC isnt allchanges and thats backed by the devs themselves. Dual specs dont fit the somechanges model by their own admission.
Dual specs is an #allchanges narrative and doesnt even try to hide it. Doesnt stop them from trying. The evidence used to justify DS inclusion can be summed up as these other changes happened, the devs are open to change, therefore no change is off the table if people want it and that makes dual specs possible’. Allchanges - plain as the nose on your face.
When you call them out on it they very predictably go right into naked denial and say no, its not allchanges, its just about dual specs. When that logically begs the question of what’s your factual evidence to link dual specs directly to somechanges (which explicity implies theyre forthcoming under the somechanges paradigm) and how does that logically refute the fact based non dual spec stance you find out what theyre really on about - good ol entitlement.
Thats not good enough to alter TBC. Seems like theyre somewhat aware of that which is why they avoid the truth at all costs. Or maybe they are just that dumb and cant figure that part out.
It doesn’t boil down to anything you pus for brains. It’s a list of how 1 change will have global effects on the game and alter every single player’s game experience from the status qou, regardless of its utility or usefulness.
You’re not discussing anything; you’re pushing a narrative and badgering anyone with a differing opinion. You are not only redundantly obstinate, but the composition of your posts are quite mundane and dry.
Lemme guess aderol has worn off, so you lose track at number 2 on the list? I wouldn’t say your pedantic, shallow yes, but I think your one of those that suffer from the dunning kreuger effect.
/shrug it’s not my fault you can’t find a good in game reason dual spec is bad but also refuse to admit your only issue is you just want a pure nostalgia experience.
You made a list of reasons all of which have been made many times before by other people and discussed and countered over and over and over again. So we have to consider whether it’s worth the time to repeat ourselves and whether it’s likely to result in a rational dialog. We have to consider a few questions: Are you interested in a rational dialog? Are you capable of it? Is that what you really want? When before we even attempt to address your list you call our arguments, “whiney qol tantrums” it seems likely any attempt to address them would only get insults in return from you. So why should we go to the trouble and spend the time to make a rational response to your list?
/Sigh Dual spec was a pretty cool feature in wrath and integrated well with the other changes and a tbc branch that has its own version would probably be cool too,
I have shown you the decency to answer your challenge and provide you with a list of counter points to your claim that it makes no changes. But, in reality, when talking about changes, it ranks as one of the biggest and is a milestone marker in the history of WoW. You can put your hashtags in a pipe and smoke it because in layman’s terms, you’re just chasing pipe dreams
The reasons dual spec was added in Wrath are the same reasons why people want it in TBC Classic and the same reason why the decision to add it was made during TBC. Dual spec is not tightly coupled to any wrath specific feature so it would work perfectly fine in TBC Classic.
As for a milestone marker LOL, it was not even a selling point of Wrath, it was just a QoL that happened to be added in Wrath. The milestone marker regarding specs was vanilla WoW allowing respecs at all. Dual spec is just the obvious logical extension of that.
Yup, and would probably have it before you cause I wouldnt have to farm the gold. I’m cool with boosting too, but hate the spam. Put xp In bgs for all I care and let me turn it off, cause at this point, there are only 19 twinks in bgs anyways. Do I think it’s gonna be implemented before 3.1.0, nope not a chance, and I gave a quarter of the reasons I think this.
Why would that be fun for you? I never once revisited the multiboxing threads after input broadcasting software was banned. I couldn’t imagine a single reason to do that. There were some massively long threads complaining about the 30 per day dungeon limit. I have never gone back to reread them when blizzard rejected their request to end it. There was nothing fun for me about revisiting. Did you play vanilla classic and have you gone back to reread threads in vanilla classic forums just for fun like you plan to reread BC threads during wrath? Is it just the dual spec threads or do you plan to reread other BC threads just for fun during Wrath? What is it about these threads that would make it fun for you to reread? I’m just curious about your mindset and how you have fun since it’s such a mystery to me.
I’m just sitting here waiting for someone to call Corpseknife out on any change being asked for as being #allchanges.
It’s almost like he’s suggesting that nobody has the ability to ask for anything without asking for everything, or if you agree with one change you agree with them all.
By his logic, since he’s agreed to #somechanges, that means that he’s also #allchanges.
Y’all need to point out the actual problem with his arguments, and how he shoots himself in the foot constantly when talking.
So far he’s:
Admitted he doesn’t know the developers intentions
Admitted he’s #allchanges, by supporting #somechanges, when he claims that any additional requests means #allchanges (and has had this stance before the previous #somechanges were made)
Admitted he ignores current developer interviews
While Corpseknife may be right, and may be wrong about the eventualities of dual spec, he’s definitely self-owned himself so many times in the last 48 hours that I applaud you all for your continued pressure while I’ve been out.
As for Corpseknife, I sincerely appreciate you acknowledging your many flaws, and how you have eventually accepted reality. It’s how we all grow.
