Why are we still talking about rdf? Just implement this system already!

I don’t really understand what your argument is? Yes, we can play without RDF, but RDF was implemented originally in wrath and was available by the patch we are going to be playing. It would alleviate the ridiculous wait time everyone is facing to find dungeons throughout the expansions. Is it possible without RDF? Yes, same way hordes could run battlegrounds before, that was possible, so why did they implement same faction BG’s?

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Youre not fooling anyone with a ‘the sky is gonna fall’ if RDF doesnt get implemented. By and large RDF is unecessary. It wasnt reinventing the wheel it was just making it go faster. Its a convenience, not almighty savior.

Like relax.

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Yeah our conversation has gotten a bit convoluted.

I responded to you because your insinuated players would be unable to play or level. My original point was your being overly hyperbolic detracts from your overall point. I’m merely pointing out that players will be able to accomplish their goals, just slower than without RDF and I feel thats a good thing.

It is quite necessary for our type of players today, mainly for our newer audience. I’d argue that RDF was NOT needed back in OG wrath. You pit new players today with current meta monkey classic Andy’s? That’s a lol

But what about new players Rux? Who will think of the children?

Will somebody please think of the children!!!11

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Wow Devs, maybe look it up instead of re-posting debunked crap on the forums. Must suck not being able to learn things for yourself.

Sure they were, but it didn’t hurt them getting gear after LFD dropped, either. Well, maybe it hurt some peoples overblown sense of “community”. You know, that same "community snicker that wants to remove a QoL tool for many of us who don’t have the same time to spend in the game we did 14 years ago.

Maybe, but so is almost every argument against LFD, and quite frankly, whether you like it or not, the use of LFD IS optional. Whereas, not having it at all isn’t.

I tried running a Strat UD last week and was told and I quote “Just pay a booster”

RFD is the only way we’ll ever be able to play lower level dungeons. If you’re not at max level already, don’t bother playing. You won’t get to play anyway.

And let me tell you “Just pay a booster” is not the “social experience” I enjoy having.

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I never said people would be unable to play or level. But seems like you’re just on here arguing for the sake of arguing and not actually inputting anything relevant into the conversation apart rom “it is possible to run dungeons without RDF”… We all know that already, thanks for the input.

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I respect your right to your opinion but I simply do not agree. Its great for min/max, Ill give you that. It fits right in with their efficiency model.

Ill never agree with a perspective that intimates they cant live without it because all observable evidence, empirical and otherwise suggests they would be just fine without it.

Its a tool of convenience. Thats it. It makes the game a little easier. It doesnt MAKE the game.

No, you think people will play just fine, but therein lies your problem. You don’t know or choose not to see how bad the state of classic is for casual gamers who aren’t here for raid logs but want to relive a game we loved.

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No, its a fact. The people opining here are the ones with the theories.

We will see when player numbers can compare with launch vs halfway through. It happened in tbc, it will happen in wrath

Launch numbers are always going to be higher but whatever.

So no you don’t have a source cool. I’ve had this conversation ad nauseum and read more dev interviews and RDF articles from 2009 then I care to remember. There is zero evidence it was meant to be in at launch. There is a dev interview with a single dev that stated he wanted RDF in from vanilla.

I dislike the RDF and I do believe it removes the communities ability to police itself. You see things differently and thats fine. Attempting to belittle others that disagree with you makes you seem petty.

I concede RDF is optional and if included at some point I will not yell and scream I will have attempt to have a rational conversation, state my point and listen to the points of others.

People did just fine in Vanilla without flying. So let’s remove it from Wrath!

You said:

Huh?

Did people do just fine in Wrath without flying?

Reductio ad absurdum.

The earlier it does the worse state it’s in.

Yes, for 9 months the tome of cold weather flying didn’t exist. You couldn’t fly while leveling in Northrend.

But guess what: it’s there day 1 in Wrath Classic.

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I said, wouldn’t be able to find groups without waiting hours for a group… Which is true is it not? Show me where I said people couldn’t level? I literally said people will level to 70 in that same post you quoted… Again, you’re just looking for arguments for the sake of arguing.

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