Why are they releasing AQ40/Naxx equivalent gear in phase 2

Oh I see you must be looking at an outdated spreadsheet because your numbers are just flat out wrong. High rank gear is much better than you think it is

But I’m over the conversation discussing feral druid gear is honestly boring

Oh I just want to add for the record that a lot of this loot we’re discussing could be literally a year or more away. Just so we’re clear on that fact

“I’m all about absolute bis bro, that’s why I’m not getting my bis until later” okay bud :joy:

A bird in the hand

Even your claim that PvP gear is high stam is wrong. R13 head = 19 stam. Circlet of Restless dreams = 38 stam. Guise of the devourer = 36 stam.

R13 shoulders = 13 stam. Chromag shoulders = 30 stam.

R13 chest = 19 stam. Moam chest = 30 stam. Dreamwalker = 29 stam. T2.5 = 24 stam.

R13 gloves = 15 stam. Gloves of the immortal = 28 stam. Twin emps gloves = 22 stam.

The PvP set is good, but it ain’t that good. There are ten headpieces with more stam than R13. And ten shoulders as well.

None of the PvP set is end-game BiS. And some isn’t even phase 2 BiS.

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No it isn’t. And maybe this is news but I’m not talking about just feral druids lmfao.

You’re mentioning specific feral druid tanking bis items and saying they have more Stam

No way really?!

You’re also forgetting the small detail that a lot of it is bis until AQ40 comes out so until then you’re the only one here that looks dumb mate

Holy crap am I done with feral druid discussion. Bro go ahead and be bad for 9 months you do you homeboy will farm his gear and be set for the rest of classic

AKA PVP. Which makes it bis forever

DPS… not so much
yes… for a priest spirit is a desirable stat…which is what we are talking about. not a dps…

meditation lets 15% of mana regen to continue during casting…
Spiritual guidance gives you spell power = to 25% of your spirit.

So if you care to do the math on that… you will see t2 helm for Priest, is superior to the blue PvP helm…

I really can not believe that this even needs to be stated…

I was originally responding to someone who said that some of the PvP set was end-game BiS. But none are end-game BiS. That is a fact.

Secondly, most of the end-game BiS items are not hard to get for any raiding feral. I was a resto druid and I had full BiS tank gear before Naxx launched, just because no one else needed the drops. All the BiS feral armor pieces are not BiS for any other class.

In fact, most feral tank pieces are trash for every other class.

It’s rather presumptuous to think this gear will be attainable by everyone.

Serious PvP folks might expect to hit somewhere between rank 10 and 12. It takes some serious commitment to exceed that.

What we’re talking about? Who is we?

OP is posting on an alt, and even if this lvl 13 priest is his main, he hasn’t made it clear what spec or content he intends to play. No duh the PvP sets are subpar for raid healing.

BiS pvp weapons in most cases come from naxx.
BiS pvp trinkets in most cases come from naxx
BiS pvp armor in most cases comes from Naxx.

Sure. Bis in Naxx patch maybe

Someone will be max lvl in a few weeks just like everything else. Nothing left to see. Game over in less than 6 months from the start.

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Totally agree with most of this, but you can most definitely get carried to rank 10 and beyond. People have been carried to Gladiator before- getting carried to Rank 14 is a joke by comparison. Poop sock, unemployed, neck beard level time intensive? Yes. Difficult in terms of requiring you to actually be good at PvP? Not really.

We are talking about the top tier pvp stuff right?

You guys realize you can’t just buy it though right?

The only thing I can think to do for you is to link this:

After you read that, whole thing, you will probably realize why what you said was a little absurd.

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None. Don’t do it. You obviously don’t want to.

PVP gear is only BiS for PVP and not even then 100% of the time.

Very few pieces of PVP gear are BiS for PVE

  1. You play a Warrior, your R12 set is BiS by miles and miles for the entire game.
  2. Rank 14 bracket is 1.3% in Blizzard frankenstein 1.13 patch.
  3. Maybe for Rogue/Mage, even Mage wants at least R10.
  4. Ok?

Alt, reported for trolling.

You are aware that…
You are wrong.