Why are they releasing AQ40/Naxx equivalent gear in phase 2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSVcmgixKaP9LC-rrqS4D2rojIz48KwKA8QBmJloX1h7f8BkUloVuiw19eR2U5WvVT4InYgnPunUo49/pubhtml#

There are a total of 14 ranks for both factions. Each rank requires a minimum amount of Rating Points to be calculated every week, then calculated in comparison to other players on your server.

Source :https://fr.classic.wowhead.com/guides/classic-pvp-system-overview

What are you trying to show me? I main a druid, I know every piece of gear by heart.

The only pieces of PvP gear that are BiS for feral are the AB exalted shoulders and the WSG exalted pants. The AB exalted shoulders are phase 4, and the WSG exalted pants are phase 5.

As for the PvP sets coming with phase 2. Only the pants last till Naxx. Everything else is replaced by AQ40 at the latest. And some are outclassed by 5-man gear.

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PVP gear is hevily itemised for surviviability and while some weapons are amazing, they’re generally on par with tier 2.

Why i said near BIS. Most importantly its guaranteed gear as you could go weeks or months before you even see Twin’s gloves dropping, or Guise of the Devourer.

It is guaranteed gear that will last a long time. But it isn’t BiS. And it will take a lot of time to get. I usually get R12 or R13 on every “fresh” server I play on, but repeatedly ganking the horde on our server sounds miserable.

I want battlegrounds.

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Anyone arguing with the OP obviously has no experience with classic itemization and power jumps

Because this is an extremely good point and there really isn’t an explaination or defense for it besides “the raid experience bro” :joy::sob:

PVP feral gear is basically bis in almost every way. It may not be absolute bis but if you get high rank feral gear you won’t really need anything else for the remainder of the game

Also lolkitty :joy:

And lolferal :sob:

What’s misinformed? Brackets are based off what the other brackets farm for honor

Without BGs these amounts will be pretty pathetic

Seeing as camping flight paths is probably legitimately the highest honor, if you have 40 people camping the best FP that’s conceivably the highest bracket you could be in

Seems to me like you’re the one who’s misinformed here bud :joy:

If you want to go that route, lolResto as well, they pale compared to Priest and Paladin/Shaman in a raid scenario.

Personally doing just fine in my guild as a Tank.

Good for you.

My parses are just fine thanks :sob:

Who’s resto? What is this phase 3? :laughing:

lolMoonglowR4HealingTouchSpam then

I don’t know why you’re upset dude. My feral set is probably better than yours

Not my cup of tea though

Doubtful as i’m only missing 2 potential upgrades until BWL comes out lol.

Same so why are you arguing with me. Accept the meme it isn’t going anywhere

Okay but only PVP gear has the stamina to put up with those numbers as well as the AQ level damage numbers to throw back out

That’s the key piece people are missing here. Sure you can put up numbers in your Naxx gear but the stamina is what makes the PVP last the entire game

In same cases however, like the swords, they are pretty much going to last forever

At the end of the game, when there’s nothing to do but PVP, the gear will still be BiS.

Period

I think all of your nuianced thoughts as far as this itemization are wasted here.

People have looked at a spreadsheet and think they know exactly what the greatest for every slot is and they’re stuck on that, anything less is unacceptable. I’ve never seen people downplay high rank PVP gear :joy:

End of the day it has the highest Stam possible and will never be replaced in PVP ever. End of the day that’s the only thing that never gets phased out, PVP.

As far as raiding goes, you could be raiding in most of that gear forever and be just fine, but everyone on these forums is in APES apparently and thinks they’re canidates for the #1 parse :sob:

Guise of the Devourer is nearly twice as good as the R13 head. R13 shoulders are less dps than truestrike, and are like the 6th-best tank shoulders. The R13 chest is something like 8th-best chest, even lower than the naxx-craftable Polar Tunic(of course you’ll just get ghoul skin anyway). The R12 gloves for tanking are worse than slaghide from LBRS. And of course Wolfshead greater than all.

You’ll only be using 2 or 3 pieces by the end of BWL, depending on spec.

The only piece any feral druid might still be using while killing KT would be the pants. And that is only if they didn’t get the pants from 4H, and are too lazy to get exalted with WSG.

Okay dude. I’m not even going to attempt to argue with someone who thinks the PVP gear isn’t good for ferals. The PVP set is the literal holy Grail for feral druids, any serious feral (which it seems you’re trying extremely hard to present yourself as one) should be in the ditches farming the epic set. I knew a feral main he was in WSG 24/7 farming his high ranks and honor because itemization is garbage for ferals for pretty much the entire game. The PVP set makes it braindead easy to gear your char from head to toe in guaranteed loot

You’re talking about 4H and KT loot like it ain’t no thang :sob:

Like I care about this conversation you do you. Way too many asshurt ferals in this thread already. But I’ve never met a feral that scoffs at the PVP set :laughing:

Y’all need to grow up and heal and stop taking the game so seriously :sob:

I never thought my replies to this very important thread would be arguing with a bunch of asshurt feral druids

I could care less dude thats why I said lolferal. I swear y’all are worse than mages :laughing:

For phase 2 nearly every piece is either BiS or pretty much BiS(especially if you include set bonus). By phase 3 half will be replaced. By phase 5 pretty much everything will be replaced.

Pretty much all feral loot prios only to ferals. No one needs 4H pants but ferals. No one needs Guise of the Devourer but ferals. And there is usually only one feral in a raid. If feral gear drops, ferals get it.

It isn’t like you’re competing against 10 other casters for a wraith blade.