N.B. Ongoing SV Hunter thread in the general forums.
Because ranged version was so much better gameplay wise and also fits hunter class much better than this melee garbage.
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Dont I usually say the same thing? Now suddenly I change it up? lol k
Every chance you get you just derail threads to complain about a spec change from half a decade ago. Not like its any better champ.
Its not deflecting, it just stumps me why grown azz people really come here to complain and cry like middle schoolers and you think its fine for whatever reason. Its just embarressing.
You do this daily. I personally dont care if you agree with me as I dont need your validation for it. I know you think highly of yourself and want to be the center of attention if Bepples isnt doing it first.
The description has never changed as I cant even modify it even if I wanted at this point. The channel name has changed like 10 times before I even met you so this isnt even a good attempt at discrediting as you try your best too do with as little to work with as you usually can muster up. Basically nothing you just said matters.
Never said this once, I however mock people who think its okay to do what you and Bepps do which you for whatever reason deem is acceptable (which it isnt btw). You’re hypocritical and you just dont like being called out for it is all.
Didnt change anything, you are the usual people that do the same stupid posting but feign ignorance.
You mean that guy who suddenly showed up here out the blue and suddenly knew our entire history in a matter of 20 minutes? How convenient btw.
Biased seeing as you havent even used SV. Cant really take someones opinion on things they dont understand. Anyways cheers love!
Nice try, the ‘settings’-button for a youtube channel is literally right there on the home page. In there, I can change the description as many times as I want to.
As for your point of having changed the name many times before, that isn’t at all relevant to my argument, nor was I making a point about that being the case.
I’ve been here since 2005, I’ve been an active participant in forums for much of that time, an active tester on PTR since before TBC, and I’ve been in every beta since Cataclysm. I started multiple threads during Legion and BfA betas with literal thousands of upvotes and responses, threads with back and forth discussion with developers, good feedback from players on all sides of the issues.
As far as my personal gameplay is concerned, I’ve raided at a mythic level in multiple expansions and as all 3 specs (I vastly prefer MM, but I picked the spec I was directed to pick when I raided mythic), though nothing as MSV. I was very active in M+ early in Season 1, but due to a confluence of factors (my group falling apart, homeschooling my son due to COVID, a new job, and a divorce) I stepped away from WoW midway through Season 1 and focused on other games for a while.
You want to attack my argument, go right ahead. I welcome debate, and I’d much rather be convinced I was wrong than believe I’m right without having my opinions challenged.
You want to attack my credibility, bring some receipts.
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Many of us were mad because it was our favorite spec, and Blizzard never gave us a proper replacement. When BM started feeling a little better, they drove the damage into the dirt.
It’s the number reason I quit playing retail.
I only recently came back to Classic after almost 18 months, but I don’t think I will ever log into my retail account again.
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What? You dont even know who i’m and what I used and when…
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MSV is fun…RSV is fun and mechanically superior cause Blizzard doesn’t know how to make melee strong without making it higher damage then ranged specs.
Sucks that people have lost RSV but it sucks more if they brought it back and removed MSV. Hope it gets merged back in and utility added to the melee since ranged has less downtime on DPS and can avoid damage better then melee.
MSV still has flaws as it lacks survival mechanics that makes sense for being in melee and ether needs melee to be a burst rotation that punishes enemies for going into melee and kiting skills improved for its ranged abilities. Or survival mechanics added in for melee.
RSV was just powerful and easy to learn adding dots and ramping damage and melting hp. Mechanically it was different enough from the other specs but not beyond the beast and ranged damage combo making the classes feel slightly similar and probably why they made MSV.
There is not much point in arguing what SV is meant to be if it’s melee or ranged since that’s up to the developers they had time to backtrack and ether push isnt strong enough or they dont care and but I feel like it has the potential to have a powerful playstyle that can either punish melee or be superior at hunting down other squishy classes. You might as well be picking a fight with warrior mains saying they suck and should stick with tanking and leave the dps to the hunters and that just toxic let people have fun if they do enough and not holding back the team let them be. Blizz needs stop making endgame for minmax damage outputs if game gets too easy players can uninstall there addons to make it harder and self challenge.
Did I miss anything?
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general discussion is the most clueless morons that play this game
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Yeah so since you dont know this, I cant access that channel now. I can comment on it but cant do anything else as my google account is no longer valid so. Also I never changed it. You are just inventing reasons to try and be right now and its honestly pathetic per usual. Do better.
Nice back track.
Wasnt talking about you but hey if the shoe fits. I know you want my response since you got nothing else going on it seems. Was actually referring to the lvl 50 warlock who “suddenly came back for wrath classic”
I love how you invented an entire conversation in the shower to come for a response when I was never talking about you in the first place. I have literally forgot who you even were until reading this. So im sorry you got some salt in your food. All love baby cheers!
Do you think everyone in this thread is incapable of reading and scrolling up?
You and I went back and forth for 10+ posts. The last post by any Warlock in this thread (who was 38, not 50, and didn’t mention wrath classic at all) was well over a month and 100+ posts ago.
I’d say you are a terrible troll, but hey, you got me to respond, so I guess you’re a pretty good troll.
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His name is Deflux lvl 50 warlock. I wasnt talking about you as I was referring to him. You just assumed I was talking about you. I had been going at it with him for days. Like I said, i literally forgot who you even were. Shouldnt assume everything is about you because again, I know how much you wanna be included. And I never said this thread, I said they like to derail threads. You for whatever reason misread or just assume which that part makes sense. Im not trolling you, I dont even care about you. Dont think too much into it and just go about your day.
How…convenient. Anyway, whatever you say…
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Havent been able too since feburary/march. Made a new channel cause of it. Like it really doesnt matter. Dont be stupid.
I have been a MM main since vanilla. I don’t like BM and how long it was the top spec and the other two specs were looked down upon until recently. This being said I think its because people liked hunter being pure ranged and when blizzard changed it well it introduced change into this class and they did not like it. Thus the anger
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not gonna lie I am 32. I dont talk much on forums but as someone who started playing WoW at the very end of Legion I would like to play some of the RAnged Survival ppl are so fond of from the Panda/WoD era getting cool procs of explosive shot, keeping you Serpent Sting up, hitting some fools with Black Arrow - all of that sounds like a pretty cool hunter spec to play =)
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How was the talent tree back then for MM? I really hope we dont get just passive crits or extra damage lol
IIRC Aimed shot was a talent and it also applied a ms effect which is what drew me to MM in the first place. I did not play hunter that much back then I would play it when I was taking a break from my priest in vanilla. I remember slowly leveling hunter and in bg’s when they came out using MM for Aimed shot for the ms effect cant remember much other than that.
Well thats fine. You can always try it out on a private server since its not here anymore.
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Its funny how people come up with such shallow and often incorrect “reasoning” for surv.
- Surv was never the “dedicated” melee spec for hunters. Yes it had melee talents, but so did bm and mm. You had to go hit a dummy to increase your weapon proficiency. Surv never had a viable melee build. Ever.
- Surv, during most of its time as ranged, was never a “mm 2.0.” In fact, in LK they were significantly different. Blizz made the stupid mistake of making it similiar to mm as a way to push people away from the spec b4 switching it to melee.
- Surv has been a bottom dweller for years. The playstyle is a mess, its clunky, and makes no sense. The ONLY reason why its viable right now is bc of the tier set. The same problems are still there. Blizz is only trying to get people to play it, when in reality, its in the worst position its ever been as a spec.
- Thematically, BM should have been melee. Fighting beside your pet is like bm 101. I know you get confused bc the title survival, but in all honestly, its the exact opposite of what you want when surviving. In reality, you want to be far away from your prey, burning as little energy as possible. The apex of surviving is killing meat without ever having to fight the animal. Plus, whoevers idea it was to have a melee surv expert throw bombs at the enemy less then 3 yrds away is just plan stupid.
Yes i kno its a video game and not everything is supposed to make sense but come on. It sucks even more bc the bomb play is the ONLY fun thing about the spec.
So, take some lessons from the hunters who ACTUALLY played surv as a main back before LK. The spec is garbo right meow. Needs to return to ranged as it was in LK.
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