Why are Protection Warriors getting nerfed?

It was about 40/30/30 Druid/BrM/DK from what I recall. In terms of numbers.

The others were out of luck, no question. My Prot Warrior co-tank had to do the fight as DPS to get credit. :roll_eyes:

Most likely guilds using a blood dk were 2 tanking as you could still 2 tank it but dps check was simply much harder.

Almost nobody 2-tanked Star Augur at the time, the DPS check was too tight in the last phase.

Thatā€™s what my guild did.

And dps players hate when tanks can do good damage.

DPS hate when other DPS do more DPS than they doā€¦ but while thereā€™s a shortage of tank because the class isnā€™t fun for most people, thereā€™s no shortage of DPS.

I donā€™t think making tanks having to rely on healers a bit more was a bad move,

to quote max_liquid : nothing feel worse as a tank than to die despite properly pressing button because your life is in someonelse hand.

Basically.

I briefly tried to learn to tank on a warrior back around Cata WoD. I remember people not giving me enough time to get rage and I couldnā€™t figure out how to get rage any faster so I gave up.

Which also comes down to what I said next to it, mitigation cooldown shouldnā€™t have gotten nerf. Dying because of lack of heal is fine but that should be over time, thatā€™s how healing work unless we simply want to get rid of the role.

Also max is of the school that tank damage is useless so I donā€™t agree with him on everything.

Enjoy being starved of rage for playing the spec you want then. Itā€™s your fifteen dollars after all.

it used to have button bloat last expac, that crown now belong to BDK.

while stagger isnā€™t intuitive to understand itā€™s also the most braindead defensive mechanic in wowā€¦ itā€™s up 100% of the time with your basic rotation, you can tank stuff like mythic queen feast without a CD, you press purify when the icon goes red and press brew as a short-CD defensive.

I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s complicatedā€¦ but then again iā€™ve been stuck in brewmaster prison for too many raid so Iā€™m biased.

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druid also solo tanked gulā€™dan (guldan himself, not all the adds), but thatā€™s more because raid tank buster donā€™t hit hard enough / often enough, and not because druids were brokenā€¦ itā€™s also one of the reason why every tank buster have some ā€œā€ take 100% more dmg from this"" tied to it because, as demonstrated during the RWFā€¦ most bosses would be solo tankable without this.

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I do enjoy it. Itā€™s a great joy that my current guild letā€™s me play whatever spec I want and just requires that I understand the fights and stay alive.

Brewmaster is still pretty high moreover if you pick all the more active talents and then play shadowpan which adds vivify also.

Still does.

What button bloat do you think was removed from Brewmaster, exactly?

I genuinely donā€™t understand the point of your responses to me.
The poster I was responding to was complaining about rage problems which the only spec prot suffers such is colossus.
If he is complaining about rage problems just go thane. It seems like you think this is a direct attack on you for choosing colossas over thane. But I donā€™t recall seeing you complain about rage at all throughout this thread, so literally nothing of what I said applied to you.

0 button bloat heck the other day I got yelled at by the healer in a time walking for just having fun pulling with SCK and held aggro the whole time.

I donā€™t suffer currently at all in prot spec from any rage issues even though Iā€™m Colossus is all Iā€™m saying. I shouldnā€™t be forced to play Mountain Thane to follow the BIS stuff either I should be able to play what I enjoy. Used to Gladiator tank too. Was alot of fun.

And what iā€™m getting at is I didnā€™t tell you to play thane. I told him. You are using Criticism aimed at another person as criticism aimed at you, which just screams of personal insecurity.

you donā€™t actually use vivify as brew unless thereā€™s nothing going on, like waiting to be kicked to the platform on queen P2. Iā€™d link parse from Wlogs but I canā€™t and you know where the website is.

What button bloat do you think was removed from Brewmaster, exactly?

Bonedust brew isnā€™t a thing anymore, raging jade wind is inferior to special delivery. Chi wave ( that auto cast on rising sun kick) is the superior option to chi burst. Niuazo is so weak you could forget the button exist ( blizz did forget, for sure). Healing elixir hasnā€™t been a thing in any relevant content for ages. Iā€™m not sure why people use black ox statueā€¦

that and BDK ( the non-sanā€™layn one) gained a new button with their hero talent, consumption is back on their menu along soul reaper

now, if you want to push the idea that dampen harm and diffuse magic could be combined together as dampen harm with 2 charge Iā€™m all for itā€¦ or combine spin-kick with tiger palm by giving TP some cleave ( but keep the high ST component when empowered with blackout combo) Iā€™m all for it. chi torpedo + tiger lust + clash seems to be too many mobility option, but blizz fixed that by making clash really awkward to pick.

point is, BDK have more button than Brew and they use all of them regularly ( unlike some brew button like zen meditation, which is almost exclusive to raid )

Not at all I might have just misread your post I thought you were calling out players for wanting to play Colossus Prot and if thats the case I apologize. I just got out of a guild where that was the norm, you played the BIS classes and specs or you were treated poorly and Iā€™m so over that mindset.