an xpac and a half later…
Yes you keep saying this but where is your information?
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where is yours?
https:// www.worldofwargraphs. com/pve-stats/best-guilds
LF draenei have useless racials
Void elves no one asked for, simply made to give blood elf model to alliance but kept blood elves sacred to the horde because the alliance simply cannot have high elves
DiD was asked for. Good race
KulTiran, too few customizations and no one asked for yet another human.
Mechagnomes…they’re so bad. They can’t even be the same amount of classes as regular gnomes. They wear diapers, and the horde playerbase has already started a crusade to have their racials nerfed to uselessness.
Horde has had the dominant racials drawing too end players away from the alliance for a WHILE now. The second something good comes along for alliance it’s nerf first, do nothing later.
This expansiin horde have added
2 druid classes
1 paladin
4 new shaman
Alliance have added
2 paladin
2 shaman
1 druid
Those are high customization classes with unique models and features.
The basis of the entire storyline has been around the horde, Sylvanis/saurfang/thrall now.
The alliance was just there for some reason
Yes, the alliance faithful have something to be upset about, this entire expansion has been horde flavored, favored, and served with undercooked alliance vegetables.
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Where is the relevant information?
Are you really trying to base a population argument through the usage of raiding guilds?
I mean…if you want to play that game,
`https://www.method.gg/raid-history
You can use that, and you’ll find that number of alliance guilds in the worldfirsts is higher than the Horde up until MoP.
Which is about 11 years of alliance dominance.
As for racial traits, how are patch notes not effective for you?
Your argument is literally you saying
“You’re wrong, and I am using this information to prove you are wrong which doesn’t say anything about population.”
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He’s only referring to two things, every man for himself which is now useless and fear ward when it was a thing.
People forget how broken trolls have been for so long, WotF was the best vanilla racial, devouring plague, stun resist has always been good, warstomp, and now stampede rush. Horde win, by far.
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I know…I am really not sure what else I can tell him at this point.
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This actually draws on a personal experience I had with someone who I care about dearly, my late grandmother.
She used to work at a local hospital, worked there for decades in fact. Whenever my parents and I would visit her she would tell us stories of things she experienced at the hospital. She worked in the pediatric care facility at the hospital, so she worked mostly with caring for children who are undergoing treatment for minor to very severe illnesses. Around this season every year I would remember her telling us how she really hated working there around these months, because of flu season. She vehemently made the point that it was the worst time of the year to work there, because of her experiences in having to give small children flu shots, and dealing with the inevitable amount of tantrums that would always happen everyday in their office.
Earlier this year, before her passing away, I showed her WoW, as I had mentioned it a few times in the past and she was interested. While I was explaining the game and things like the factions and the community, I showed her the forums.
After looking at the front page for a minute she turned to me and told me:
“I thought that I had experienced the greatest amount of crybabies throwing tantrums when I worked giving flu shots to kids, but now I see the biggest group of crybabies in the world are the alliance players posting on the WoW forums”
I am level 115 now. Just getting into BFA and playing alliance is like getting a digital massage. Blizzard treats us like gods.
So do Mag’har and Nightborne.
Horde did not get Ogres. We got Tauren with antlers, and deformed night elves. NO one wanted those dude.
How are they bad? They have incredible detail put into them, very useful racials eve when they are nerfed (and they really need to be), they are pound for pound better than Foxes for the HOrde.
Cool, where are my Horde teams in the MDI? Oh wait.
The alliance have better racials, they just aren’t so stupidly good that Method hasn’t transferred for raiding. Competitive M+ though? Alliance dominated hard.
That both factions have access cool. This is not an effective argument.
Correct, because the alliance don’t ever want to be the faction doing anything bad.
You complain you don’t get the races you want, which enforce the current alliance theme, and also complain you don’t get a story catering to you, which would require the alliance to act differently.
You want to bake the cake, eat it, and have ice cream.
Yeah…not like they were there fighting the faction that burned down their tree. /s
Cool, and where were the Horde during all of Legion?
How about how Baine’s quest was cut from Legion?
Come on man, this is just trying to push a narrative that isn’t well supported game design wise.
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It wasn’t equal effort.
ZT males use Night Elf skeleton rig and animations.
ZT females use DS troll rig and animations.
ZT druid forms are mob skins.
KT have a whole new rig, their own animations, and the coolest druid forms in the entire game.
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You have a whole thread on this forum literally whining about the Horde getting better treatment, LMAO
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Ehhhh I had to go off of what the devs said since they said it was an issue for them given it was a straightbacked troll model.
I am trying to not take sides.
Kul Tiran would be a lot more popular without the insane unlock requirements. I mean who could hate Homer Simpson/Randy Marsh esque humans?
I am sorry for her passing, however this did not happen…come on…
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It’s not pushing anything clown.
And way to cherry pick the quotes.
You forgot to mention the numbers on the unique classes that you say both had access to
Horde
4 Shaman
2 druid
1 paladin
Alliance
2 shaman
2 paladin
1 druid
And your opinion on vulpera is your opinion
There has been a large population of the playerbase that had been pining for them since they were introduced.
Legion? Saurfang leading the warrior hall, shaman under thrall and earthen ring horde.
The number one alliance character was shown the door at stage one of the expansion, jaina.
And horde asked for ages for upright orcs, oh wait there they are.
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Every. Single. Allied. Race. Is. A. Reskin.
Except KT.
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Based off of pandas but nice try.
Kultiran are a reskin of Ogres and Tuskarr which they just plan to implement later as a regular race
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