Why anti duel spec?

+1 for dual spec #druid life

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You again, welcome back, I see you stalked my profile.

Yes, I agree with the change to BGs.

We discussed that change in this thread actually, go find it dog, and maybe you’ll learn why I stand where I stand on these issues instead of randomly throwing a month old post in here with no context.

Yeah, wow is metaphorically dead, especially after the “incident” at ActiBlizz. I have about 50 independent posts crying out for this hell to end.

So what’s your point?

Oh my troll comment, you found the one where I played the role you guys do.

But yes, a handful of posts in a dead thread of me mocking you guys counters my hundreds of posts where I take the same stance every single time.

So again, what’s your point?

When you start changing core mechanics or the actual game world. Neither of which dual spec does.

So looking at your list, something like barbershop does not, whereas something like LFD certainly does.

I can respect it. It won’t solve the tank issue, but I can atleast respect that answer.

Again, specs are never evenly distributed. So you’re creating some weird strawmaw that has never existed and will never exist.

I did it for your argument, because lord knows 1,000 tanks on a 9k population is way more than there actually is.

There would need to be 1800 tanks for an even distribution. How many tanks do you think there are? How many healers do you think there are? Do you think there is more than a 2 to 1 deficit?

That you’re a hypocrite.

Wait, what are you admitting here? :grin:

Here’s how I think about it, if you take the mona lisa and hang it in a fancy well lit modern museum with a nice audio guide it’s still the mona lisa. You take the mona lisa and draw a funny hat and her smoking a blunt and you’ve fundamentally changed it.

Hypocrite for what? Me arguing for an as close to faithful recreation, but not being a literal Chris Chan and recognizing when something is legitimately broken and needs a change, like Horde bg queues, but also recognizing that dual spec is specifically a QOL change that people only want for the sake of wanting it.

But now that gets a literal lard stalking every single word I’ve ever said, taking it out of context because he’s big mad that I called him broke.

Actually pathetic, get some sunlight.

That I had fun in one thread instead of arguing points?

Actually get some sunlight dude, and maybe take some social classes so you can learn how to recognize social ques.

I’m anti-dual spec because I don’t view the lack of tanks, a fundamental problem that’s plagued wow since the start, and is still a problem in retail with a plethora of changes, won’t be solved by only implementing a single change that affects the whole of the player base for a single issue that is only relevant for P1 and P5, so when I see people want a QOL change and hide it behind an actual issue as a disguise, I’m going to fight back.

But you saying that you want it because you want it, then sure man. I disagree, but I can’t hate it.

Using LFD/LFR as any metric of comparison is like comparing any TBC heroic to running RFC/Stockades.

It doesn’t tho since respecing is not allowed once a M+ key starts (nor being able to switch gear, talents, or enchants/gems) and often times requires you to switch more than just your spec but your enchants, weapons, gems, and any borrowed powers (i.e. soulbind trees and conduits for SL) for the expansion further in advance before you even set foot into a dungeon. In most mythic fights you don’t just swap willy nilly between pulls and for the most part between bosses too much and in most cases you would straight swap people out for fights rather than have somebody respec if you are a proper guild with a good roster.

Even in Wrath when it was introduced, you never had a situation where you have more than 2 people switch there specs around on a fight by fight basis and it was generally just a matter of maybe a 3rd tank in rat 25-mans for trash swapping to a dps spec on a boss when you only needed two tanks or a caster dps like a ele sham or shadow priest swapping to a healing spec if it came to a situation where healing ended up being the breakpoint in progression or if somebody couldn’t make it.

OMG. Just play the game. It gets added later.

I’m seriouly mind-boggled at the entitlement being shown by all these threads.

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Unless they make changes that you want, of course. Like HvH, right?

:thinking:

Hey man, trolling is offensive. It’s reportable. Just saying, your “fun” is at the expense of other peoples’ feelings.

Plus it, you know, makes it so that whenever you say anything I don’t know whether you’re leveling with me or you’re just being a child.

You know, kinda like saying “I’m ignoring you” to me when that’s clearly not what you did. That’s what children do.

There are many people who didn’t want the change because it would make faction imbalance worse.

I agree with their criticism of same-faction queues, but I still acknowledge that Blizzard needed to do something. And I play alliance on an alliance-only server so it didn’t even affect me.

You’re doing all these mental gymnastics trying to explain why what you want is necessary, but what everyone else wants isn’t.

The truth is, Blizzard added same-faction queues because a lot of people complained about not being able to play the game. With many of those actually quitting the game.

I have argued in other threads that if the shoe was on the other foot, I would argue FvF for the Alliance as well.

I don’t let some arbitrary “faction war” dictate the idea that gatekeeping players from casual pvp as a good thing. I want everyone to be able to play the game, and I understand that queues and waiting is a thing that has to happen in wow by the nature of the game, but a dated system that is only exacerbated by one faction literally choosing not to play becomes absurd. It transcends QOL, it becomes a core issue that affects end game content at the core by being unplayable in any reasonable time frame for the expected content.

You would know this if you stalked me harder, guess you’re just a low quality dog, fetching posts that suit you to stir the pot by condensing 500+ posts down to a single sentence.

Then report me. I hate you as a person. The only thing you do is stir up and derail conversations by low tier bait. I don’t want to be associated in any form by you, so go back to that thread and report me.

Report me here too. The faster I get off of here, the faster I can go back to being ignorant that smooth brains infect this community.

No, it’s still a blocked line that says ignore. I just can’t help but to defend myself from some guy who wants to post very cherry picked comments with no context to derail my entire conversation.

Shoo.

Which is false, the gap is closing in Alliance favor. There is less than a 10% difference on US servers for faction imbalance.

Then you agree with unfounded rhetoric.

Your 100% alliance server means nothing in regards to pvp population. We can have every server be 0/100 or 100/0 and the pvp population imbalance would remain the same.

I’ve explained why multiple times. One was a core issue affecting an entire aspect of end game content, the other is a disguise hiding behind just a pure want for QOL.

I gave you overinflated numbers in your favor and the numbers still didn’t help your case. We have seen dual spec and it’s better version in action since LK, over a decade ago, and the tank issue is still there.

We know dual spec isn’t the solution to the tank problem.

If you want dual spec, just say it, and this conversation is done. I’ll still disagree as it’s just QOL and not a change that makes the game actually playable, but I can respect it instead of listening to you cope about how it’ll fix an issue that it has never fixed before.

Yes, and while I agree that the tank issue is a real issue, dual spec isn’t the answer, at all.

What does this have to do with anything? It’s almost an ad hominem type of attempt, but it’s unrelated. It’s kind of like saying, “Ah a troll hunter trolling. lol” C’mon man. Likewise, whether a TBC Heroic or RFC/Stockades, what point are you trying to make anyway?

What does that have to do with being able to respec without cost, anywhere, while out of combat in Retail?

Oh… so you started how you started, and now go on to talk about Mythic plus.

:eyes:

OK. What about what you’re trying to say made you think it was reasonable to say it in reply to what is in my post?

Yup, you have. Hence, hypocrisy.

Your ream of text isn’t worth anything to me. I’m a layman. Won’t get wrapped up in your sea of lies.

Okay, if you insist. :wink:

You seem to find some inherent value in your perceived intelligence.

Might I suggest Forest Gump? Great movie!

Just goes to prove I was correct. :rofl:

Still here. Your “shoo” was summarily ignored.

Now what?

Smooth brain.

Low quality bait.

Except you’re not. You know how ignore on the forums works, right? It won’t notify me that you responded, but your post is still there, and all I have to do is click it to see it.

Now I’m going to go play wow, I’ve been here for hours saying the same 6 things in a circle because the flock of Druids want to bait me into saying something different.

If you’re like this in real life, I am so sorry to everyone who knows you.

Good bye Chris Chan.

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