Can’t really get lower than instant.
I’ll never forget being fake mad that I had to wait two whole minutes before getting in an instance as tank.
Hence why I also included my experience dpsing 
because you know alts anmd what not.
Lower respec cost is discount dual spec, which we have already discussed how FVF and dual spec are not the same solution.
So why are 10g respecs worse for the game than same-faction battlegrounds?
No one is saying they don’t want lower wait time.
The thing becomes what happens after. What happens after the tanks are done being tanks for a few weeks.
Then we just have dual spec, and those tanks still aren’t playing because they’re done.
Yes, when there was dual spec, LFD, and incentives.
But you’re just arguing for dual spec.
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I don’t get how you don’t get it. You just asked that question, I just answered it.
There will still be more people tanking than otherwise would be, and guess what dps also gear up and stop queueing too. It’s not like tanks/heals are the only ones who eventually out gear heroics and dps have to keep running them indefinitely.
You said “they are different solutions”. You never explained why one was bad for the game while the other isn’t.
Probably for leveling, but I know plenty of people who went tank specifically to reroll at 70.
I doubt there would be a big increase for heroics, since you know, we have a decade worth of data showing that’s not how it’s going to work.
I did the numbers. Let me scroll up and quote it.
Yeah man, thousands of dps still looking for tanks, for a shot at the:
I’m not retyping another novel because you lack the basic understanding to comprehend how one fixes a problem, and another doesn’t.
So if a #change completely solved the tank shortage, you would be in favor of it?
Okay? And that doesn’t change that there will be more tanks/heals with dual spec to service those thousands. See above even once geared those people will still occasionally dip into heroics for whatever reason.
Yes, but there is no solution that is viable without reworking the core of class design, instances, and heroics, and at that point, we’re at the ship of theseus. Is it even the same game?
You want a change that will mostly be a QOL change for you with an insignificant impact on the actual issue you’re suggesting you want the change for.
Don’t #changes me. I’m #ISupportSmartDecisionsThatIsntBasedOnSomeWhimsOfDruidsWhoWantMultispecs.
Not really. In my best case I can come up with, it’s still abysmal.
yeah they’ll do H SH for the bird mount, or they’ll already more than likely be a tank and are already more than likely tanking for friends and guildies, and won’t care if some random dps need a tank.
Edit: In my best case, I use more players than mankrik has for it’s entire horde population. This is literally a full server number I used. Most servers are not full servers.
This is basically a modified version of the “no changes ship has already sailed!” argument.
You can’t use other changes to justify dual specs inclusion.
If you incentivized tanks, there would be more tanks. Most people get tanks by offering them gold. Blizzard was paying alliance to queue for BG’s with that recruitment box or whatever.
No, it simply invalidates your main vessel of argumentation, which is bad for you, not us.
Incentivization only worked in Cata and onwards because LFD existed.
Most people get tanks because we’re 2 months in and the game is still fresh.
Because Alliance was mad that Horde could finally play the other half of the game.
It was used to calm them down, not incentivize them.
I didn’t. He was the one who said same-faction bg’s were good and necessary to solve what he agreed was a player-made problem. While lowering respecs costs are bad and unnecessary.
/shrug unless you are claiming that not a single person with a tank/heal off spec would occasionally do a heroic on a whim for one of the reasons I already listed or any other the situation is improved.
How do you know that? It felt like an incentive to me.