Once again that’s not a reason why dual spec is bad.
Completely false. Certain specs work better on certain fights making them substantially easier.
Perfect example of this is a fire mage on Heroic alysrazor.
Of course certain specs work better on some fights, that doesn’t mean the fight itself is different because of dual spec.
so you’re saying that the fight literally doesn’t change at all if 2 mages swap from pure ST arcane to fire cleave with it’s insane crit and haste scaling?
You’re bonkers.
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So a beautiful statue gets a chip on it. Guess we should just tear the entire thing down huh?
I hate the boost, but atleast it offers no gameplay value at 70.
Dual spec does.
I’m not anti-dual spec because of that though.
I’m anti-dual spec because I want to have as faithful of a recreation of the game, and tearing it away from that even more does not help the case.
Our Shaman went and rerolled Resto specifically for Nightbane. He’ll be elemental again for everything else, but he’s probably going to go back to Resto this lockout for Nightbane again, because he wants the kill.
I’m anti-dual spec, but this idea that people aren’t switching specifically because dual spec isn’t around is absurd. It may not happen as much in comparison to the existence of dual spec, but parading around the idea that “Switching mid raid” wasn’t a thing, or isn’t a thing, is just outright wrong.
I mean… I could see the argument that content prior to 3.1 wasn’t balanced with dual spec in mind.
3.1 and on were definitely balanced around it being a thing though. You can look to 10 man raids as proof- dual spec allowed them to design encounters that benefitted from having someone swap to heals, for example. Hard modes in particular were tightly tuned to a degree beyond what they could do before dual spec was added. They didn’t need to worry about making sure the encounters and hard modes worked with the same group comp as the other fights in the dungeon because dual spec made switching fast and easy.
And yes, I saw your ghostcrawler quote. It’s not the gotcha you think it is. He’s saying they never designed enncounters so strict that you couldn’t beat them with the odd offspec dps/tank/heals to fit the encounter, instead of respeccing to fill that role. That’s not generally what people mean by “Wrath is balanced around dual spec”.
because they want the game to die, people who are anti dual spec obviously has not played on successful servers and does not understand what it takes for a TBC server to be successful in 2021.
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“Here I will sneer at everyone who’s argued against what I want with the most basic of insults. Please bring your chin up to my fist.”
Also, a spec just for dueling would be less popular than you apparently think it would.
Heh… the same was true in vanilla and classic, different encounters benefitted from different group comps. And just like in vanilla and TBC the much bigger comp issue was not number of healers/tanks(which never had a very big swing anyways, at most 1 or 2 even in 25 mans) but class make up.
The much bigger deciding factor was always class comp especially ranged vs melee, not having a couple healers/tanks swapping. And it’s the same case in TBC Classic, dual spec would hardly be some make or break factor in hard encounters.
Is and my reply to this is one simple word We are not the same players as we were in 2007.
Is people were not clearing the raids with pugs but here we are Because guess what if you can’t clear the raid without dual speck.
You’re probably not going to clear it with maybe maybe one out of every a Is 100 groups well.
Maybe that little bit of extra damage may help it sure But at the end of the day The type of people that would really take advantage of that.
This are probably going to be using it for speed running any way I played back then And everybody I talked you wanted something such as duel speck.
Because quite frankly in order for you to recapture that you would have to go back to 2007.
Because guess what if burning cursade is so perfect to let me ask you that Why are people leaving the game in droves.
Why are new people not coming Why are people not coming back.
Because no matter how good an expansion is guess what it has its problems And the lack of duel speck is one of them.
It’s not going to break the game Is look at all the private servers that had dull speck on it.
And they were just fine in fact they had more different different benefits back on top of that and it still didn’t break the game.
Is this fantasy of trying to recapture something that was in 2007 it’s not going to happen why.
Because it’s not 2007 we’re not the same player base And there’s more information out there than a dictionary put together.
Dual spec will not kill the game it won’t who cares if it wasn’t balanced around it I’m pretty sure it wasn’t balanced around having all the extra key bindings.
All the extra Adams and all the other extra stuff we have access too now Norah was it balanced Is around everybody knowing what their best and slot was before even walking in the raid.
So quite frankly It doesn’t matter if it was balanced around it or not
Mankrik and Windseeker seem pretty successful without dual spec.
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I never said it was bad, just that it is unnecessary. Nothing is being gated because duel spec is not in the game. You haven’t given me a reason it is necessary enough to implement. The game is not broken without duel spec.
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Your argument is obviously true but it doesn’t mean anything. Saying “the game wasn’t designed for something that didn’t exist” could just as well apply to the Tinnitus debuff on drums. It doesn’t prove that Tinnitus is a bad idea, or that raids were designed with drums in mind.
Go on, you’ve intrigued me
The only rational explanation for why people want a less healthy game is because they want fewer people playing it.
A lot of Private server criminals hate blizzard and want the game to die. True fans of TbC are really rooting for the health of the game and additions like dual spec. We want to have a strong, healthy community.
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True fans of TBC aren’t asking for the game to be changed.
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True fans of TBC recognize the flaws and strive for it to be better. No true fan revels in stagnation.
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Why did Blizzard “re release” old content on a separate server set?
You know you can play through the old world content in Shadowlands. Talk to Chromie and pick the expansion you want to play, and there you go.
You don’t need to suffer through an “inferior” version of TBC - the “better” version is waiting for you right now, in retail.
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