true garrosh shouldve ended him
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What perfectly wonderful pleasant lives you all must live to find reactions to childhood trauma to be so extreme and otherwise totally out of character. Becasue thatâs what childhood trauma does. It changes you. You spend the rest of your life trying to move on but you never really do. And when you see someone that looks exactly like your victimizer all reason and rational thought shuts down and survival mode kicks in. Thatâs exactly whatâs happening with Baine. He was almost murdered by centaur as a child. So when he sees centaur in the dragon isles heâs that child again emotionally. Heâs so traumatized by it that he wonât even go into their camps WITH the player. And it isnât only him. Tauren sing songs about them during traumatic moments. Singing about whatâs terrifying and threatening you is not uncommon. In fact itâs so common Nightmare on Elm Street featured its version. Itâs called trauma response and they often make someone you know look unrecognizable.
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Itâs ok. Your pasty-faced, cringe-inducing, goth waifu will get written back into the story at some point. No need to be mad bro.
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Honestly, I found the entire thing super super cringe. I mean truthfully 12 year old kid writing.
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The developers needed to have a reason to bring Baine into the mix and âHere We Go!â Baine is now a part of Dragon Flight.
I donât think he is acting out of character. Remember, Taurean are predominantly hunters and they are always looking for a good hunt. Baine decided to go on a hunt and asked who should we hunt today at the same time Tomul walked up and said hey guys I am prey (Shikaar). Baineâs face lit up as he thought now ainât that convenient. There is a centaur tribe who call them self prey. I will just do what is expected of me.
Well, I guess I could hand you some $$$ I actually liked your version of events. Good times with Baine, letâs go slaughter some centaur together as buddies.
We need a Theme song!
Uh.
I think it makes perfect sense that he still thinks ill of the centaur.
He grew up watching centaur doing horrible things in Kalimdor and then runs across some more centaur on the dragon isles.
He isnât going to simply forget about the atrocities and go âoh, well THESE centaur are different!â ⊠thatâs not how things work.
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I think what a lot of people are getting hung up on is that itâs a bad call, and they donât agree with the call that was made, and think that Baine was wrong, therefore they think itâs a badly written plot point.
And I meanâŠthatâs the point. The point is that Baine made a bad call, he made the wrong decision because of his previous biases that already had reasons for them laid out in Warcraft freakinâ 3. Was he standing there next to the player character when we made a deal with the Marukkai and shook their hand and then did a random face-heel turn? No, we donât know how much Baine knows about the situation. And even if he did hear about the situation, that doesnât mean that he didnât snort and go Centaurs? Yeah RIGHT Iâll still never trust those guys inside his head.
âGoodâ characters can still make mistakes, casting aside what everyone around them is telling them and heading into things with the wrong mindset based on their past experiences. Thatâs story, thatâs not inconsistency. Good characters can make mistakes and thatâs not automatically bad writing because their decision was a mistake, we know that it was a mistake. Weâre supposed to know that it was a mistake. At the end of the quest thread he grows and changes and learns to put his old biases aside enough to keep things going. Hooray, character development for one of the most chronically underdeveloped major characters in the game!
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Good characters making mistakes is some of the best story writing around, because it is so realistic.
âGoodâ people make mistakes all the time, including everybody reading this right now.
Weâve all done it, and itâs why itâs such great story writing because it feels so real when a major good character does an oopsie and has to learn from it.
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I wish, they âmended her soulâ She will never again be the Dark Lady.
Like i said⊠cringe-inducing
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Baine kill centaurs go BRRRRRR
This questline was very odd to me.
I realize Baine has PTSD from when he was kidnapped by the centaur, but if thatâs the case, why didnât he have this same reaction towards the Alliance when they destroyed Camp Taurajo?
He has always been easily forgiving yet in this case he decides to go full Anakin Skywalker?
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Quite possibly because people react to different things in different ways.
He wasnât in Camp Taurajo when it was destroyed. He was definitely taken and possibly tortured by centaurs when he was younger, and kept by them for an extended period. For the Camp Taurajo incident he was trying to put on a brave face as a leader and move past it for the sake of peace. For the centaur incident he was directly, personally affected and didnât have any chance for redress.
People tend to hang on to things more when it affects them personally.
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You mean like how he is a semi-pacifist until it comes time to defend a dead Alliance hero and then he smashes the horde?
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Well, at least they arenât trying to make him evil.
I would say that itâs because while Camp Taurajo was a tragedy that directly affected Baineâs people, it didnât directly affect him.
His main trauma with centaurs isnât just because of the way they treated his people (though thatâs certainly part of it), itâs about what they did to him. The Desolace centaurs didnât kidnap and attempt to eat a generalized representation of the Bloodhoof community, they kidnapped Baine. Likewise, Bovan Windtotem is more than just a kinsman to Baine. Heâs a personal savior and role model who he owes his life to. Baine didnât get emotional when his people were threatened, he got emotional when specifically Bovan Windtotem was threatened.
In short, this time it was personal. Baine had significantly more stake to lose here than he has in past situations regardless of how touchy those situations were. That personal stake made all the difference and he wasnât able to handle it.
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What happened to your yellow text???
Remember that time when they left him parked in Oribos for two plus years. This is a bad writing attempt to make him more relavent.
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