Who would you like to see from the PvP community get on the Council

I also like random bgs and that is where most of my PvP has taken place over the years. Epic bgs aren’t even PvP. The rest of your statement is drivel and irrelevant.

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It’s the most funnest form of PvP… IMO. It’s a subjective opinion.

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For many melee players they probably aren’t fun, but as resto/balance they are a blast.

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I don’t think that’s entirely fair, tbh. Pretty much every high-rated player I’ve ever heard give an opinion on the subject want to go back to 1 honor set, 1 conquest set with no ilvl grind. No borrowed power BS, etc. I think the only people who actually support this current system are barely 2100 DPS who get off on two shotting casual players in random BGs.

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I’m not sure you’re understanding. As it stands there is a gear gap between you and I. “If you get better gear then there is no gear gap” isn’t a solution to the gear gap. The gear gap still exists.

So like I said, since you deflected. As it stands I have mostly 233 ilvl pvp gear and you are sitting at Rival. There is 14k HP and 9% versatility between us. That’s a gear gap, and I’m part of the “fix” that blizz implemented in the most recent patch. There is still a sizeable difference between you and I. I am assuming you are a skilled player, judging by your experience in battlegrounds. In order for me to make a difference for my team, and more specifically against you, I will need to play perfectly. But also, you will need to fumble, A LOT.

It sounds like you are trying to win a typing competition instead of what others are trying to tell you.

This is what you ask^ guess I’ll have to break it down again.

I’ve been playing WoW since BC it is the only game that I play PvP is the only thing I love, especially random battlegrounds. The last few years, WoW has been on a downward spiral and for the game that I love, I hate to see that happening. No, I’m not a computer expert or typing specialist, but I try to help out when I can.

I don’t know if you do not understand, or you’re just here being a troll, but either way, I’m done.

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Hence people suggesting to take steps to remove or minimize that gear gap.
Yes that is the solution to the gear gap. When a gear gap exists and someone does nothing to minimize this then it is their own fault. You don’t get to keep blaming gear gaps when you do nothing to solve it.

That is not the case. You do not need to play perfectly nor does he need to fumble.
We are not robots. Attacks do not all do the same damage. You do not need to play like some god in order to beat higher geared players, especially in BGs where 1v1 combat is very rarely a thing.

Unfortunately, this point is what these fellers don’t want to really relate/accept/comprehend/understand lol…

Then again certain posters it seems like simply want to talk about “the bad players” over truly doing anything positive/objective for the state of good PVP for whomever…

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What have you done as far as positivity or objectivity for the state of PvP?
All I’ve ever seen you do is randomly enter threads with “haha unfortunately this player ree ree” in an attempt to undermine or discredit people whose opinions you dislike or otherwise disagree with.

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This would solve the gear gap for me. The gear gap still exists. Come on herc, I expect this kind of reasoning from Spirit but I hold you to a higher standard.

If there is a large average ilvl difference between two teams then yes, the lower ilvl team does need to play perfectly. Also 1v1s happen all the time in random BGs. Especially when playing the objectives.

If you have a ~14k HP and 9% versatility advantage and you lose then there is much, MUCH more you need to learn about your class. I can’t count on everyone I come up against to be keyboard turners.

4 months into the season, who is at fault for having 233 ilvl in PvP?

Reasoning. Something you’re entirely unfamiliar with.

Deflecting, again. You stated that 233 increase was enough. I stated otherwise. Since then you have just said, “Get better gear.” So which is it? Is the 233 viable or not?

233 is viable enough to get 242, which is viable enough to get 246. Now the ilvl difference is 6 between us. What’s the problem? Oh yeah, you want to entirely skip gearing and just go straight to end game. Try Streetfighter.

All of these types of posters arguments pretty much enter the “suits my narrative” style of interaction where they want you to play the game their way and create their own set of facts (highlighted here by the nonsensical no 1v1s in bgs statement. Do you even bg bro lol)

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  • Gear gap exists.
  • You take steps to eliminate that gear gap.
  • Gear gap no longer exists.

Or if you don’t reach the same rating then gear gap does still exist, however, it is not consequential to the point of being the reason you’re losing games. In other words, nothing to make a fuss about.

Your enemy team in random BGs is not full Gladiator geared players while your own team is all fresh 60s in leveling greens. Both teams are a mix. Blaming gear for losses is a scapegoat, reality is that the other team played more effectively to achieve their win condition.

I did not say 1v1’s do not happen. I said they are rare.
Do not attempt to say that others are trying to suit a narrative while in the very same post you spin words to fit your own narrative.

thats the problem, people did, and now there is hardly anyone left to play with. the solution is not to tell people to go play another game, its to make this game one they want to play.

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You could have just said “I don’t know what I’m talking about”

The gear gap was never an issue going from step to step. The gear gap issue stands with leaps and bounds. The problem with that 246 is that they are in random BGs with 200s. You have no clue what it is that you’re even arguing.

I can be guilty of this as well. I want WoW gearing to suit my playstyle as it has in the past. I play rated when I can. I would love to play more rated battlegrounds but it’s just too time-consuming to pug it, and when I attempt to play with a crew on a weekly basis I end up backing out more than I’m able to attend. 2s are pretty easy for me to get into, but I’m not crazy about arenas and I’m just doing it to get the gear.

The issue with these players screaming “This is the way that it is” is that they are forgetting that it’s hasn’t been this way for a long time. The current system suits them because they have all the power.

Willing to bet that these are the same players that would unsub if templates were introduced. (which I am against before anyone quotes this and starts a brand new argument)

Giving gear advantage to better players is the most a$$ backward thing in the history of all games.

It’s like you are playing Jordan 1-1 but because he is Jordan , he is playing with Nikes on while you are playing barefoot.

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Because both teams aren’t a mix? I’ve been in some slaughters recently where my teams haven’t stood a chance. I’ve charged nodes with teammates sub 30k HP who were smacked to the side by Rival + players like they were gnolls in elwynn. I hate when I get undergeared players on my team and my gear isn’t even good enough for me to warrant that kind of attitude. I’m middle-of-the-road gear wise.