Who else is irritated thats in 2019 and we still dont have flying yet?

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like me for example. TBH flying should go away. too many ppl QQ over it and even devs say they wish they never made flying a thing outside of TBC.

See, the thing is, there’s plenty of games without flying. You can 100% get your no-flying immersion fix in a literal sea of video games.

If you want no-flying there’s a ton of options out there, but this one has flying and we like it. In fact, I’d hazard a guess that for some of us that creates the very real problem that other games do not have flying.

What you’re asking for is tantamount to removing a game play option from the entire MMO scene, given that WoW is the only MMO that I’m aware of that allows flight.

even devs say they wish they never made flying a thing outside of TBC.

This one’s fun, though. The devs who made flying in TBC are not the same devs now.

While the current devs may well wish that the prior ones had not opened that can of worms, we have no way of knowing if the people who chose to do so regretted it. Given that they made no attempts to change it at the time they were there, and it hardly impacted end game, I doubt it.

The only real reason they’d want to take away flying is, to be clear, to keep us playing longer. It’s a product of their current design decisions, not an empirical fact that it’s harmful.

Economies are effected as flight means more resources faster.

I’d argue that the economy becomes more accessible, due to material flood. This brings the price of everything down, and was probably super beneficial to the average player who had no interest in farming gold in the first place.

World PvP is near nonexistent when flying is 99% of travel.

They could have, from the earliest point of flying, disabled flying if you were in wPvP. They could have prevented you from dismounting with an ability in flight, and force parachuted you if you tried to dismount and attack after.

There were a million ways to handle it and they did poorly. That’s not flying’s fault, it was theirs.

I am likely a minority in that, but thats life.

True, true. Nothing to be done about it, and honestly we’re all just bleating mindlessly about it because we know we’re not going to sway them.

That said, content managed to last just fine in the past when you unlocked flying at max level. There wasn’t a reason to reinvent the wheel except because they wanted to. They made flying a problem, not the other way around.

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Not requiring instanced content has nothing to do with how long we wait for it… Am I missing something here?

And you know this how, exactly?

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Maybe THESE devs wish that, but you don’t go to the time and expense of completely revamping the game world to permit flight if it’s something you wish you’d never introduced.

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it isnt…
ff14, flyff, forsaken world, and COUNTLESS f2p games (i should know as i have played quite a few in past)
heck there is a really enjoyable chinese themed one that did it greatly. (gameplay was fun too)

umm…did i say the dev who made it?
isnt worth my time going back to find which stated it

many devs have stayed same since then (just shifted job positions)

do you not know how flying impacts the world for ma standpoint?

do you know why they didnt just enable flying outside of areas it was designed for?

it isnt as simple as “toggle on/off”.

also devs dont care ONLY about end game.
They want players to SEE the world they made.
not fly over it if it wasnt a quest objective or gathering area.

an economy isnt healthy just cause of a cheap market.
Heck raw mats could drop in price, but crafters could RAISE prices if they wanted. (since it takes time, resources, and effort to raise a profession they dont want their work to be nearly profitless)

WoD showed ppl how a wrecked economy around cheap mats were. (since that xpac itself WRECKED gathering professions)

also the game tosses gold at you…you dont have to “farm” like you did in the past.

hit exhalted with an exhalted rep? yay you just earned a 4k min gold cache.
this WQ gives 100g min? that one gives 350g? ez 200g missions?

and that is all PASSIVE income (you dont do any real amoutn of effort towards it but get it nearly by just playing the game as you do anyways)

you know WPvP isnt like WM right?

WPvP is like a pvp realm…ur always flagged.
You cant “disable flying” in this situation less you removed it all together.

its flying fault by its mere existence. In the air there is ZERO risk.
Yes, devs could make ways to go agaisnt this but it is a flight issue before dev issue.

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I get that they have to restrict flying for a time to allow you to immerse your character in the zones , But its to long a time as it is , I would have it once you level 2 characters to max you open up flying , if you want to rush and do it thats your choice…

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The issue was polled 3-5 years ago and the decision was based on player opinion.

This “poll” never happened and I know that for a fact. Blizzard has never…

…Never

…Never

…polled us on ANYTHING.

So that comment is pure fiction.

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Poll was back when WoD was around to determine how to handle flying/pathfinder. And based on other polls around on reddit, the response hasnt changed.

No it wasnt and I was here then. It never existed.

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Hahaha. My favorite was the skewed poll they tried over on mmoc back during wod . Later on some folks who play league of legends laughingly admitted they voted in that poll, and said hell we don’t even play Warcraft lol. Of course its pretty well known, or used to be that lol players love to mock, and make fun of wow players anyways haha.

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our book example is bad. Books, TV, etc., are temporary pleasures

Oh my dear sir, I dont just read ONE book…I read entire series. Mate, Im the kind of guy who wont look at a book unless it has more than 1000 pages or can tell a story in more than one volume.

Temporary? Ever tried to read six volumes in a few days?

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he game fell away from that, and this expansion is specifically designed to emphasize world PvP and the horde v. alliance theme. (Though the writing could use some work.)

No, it isnt and id never was. it never will be either.

Id take a good close eye on where this expac is headed…you are in for some very rude awakenings.

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As I stated, hard proof, facts, without such, still just your opinion. <That is a fact, by the way.

I think you’re feeling defensive. <That is my opinion, by the way. You may not be feeling defensive, I can not read minds, so I can not factually state that you are indeed feeling defensive, hence, why my statement was worded as it was.

Very good, you can be taught it appears. The above is your opinion, and for you, it is a fact that the game is not as fun as it used to be, something we both agree on. And yes, I can dispute your opinion that all danger has been eliminated from World of Warcraft, as evidenced by the fact that people still have trouble doing open world content. Maybe not you and I of course, a couple of old-timers like us would figure out a way to get things done I am guessing.

Oh, and I can’t forget . . .

Semper Fi! :us:

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Even everyone’s “best dev ever!!!” Ghostcrawler said that he wished they’d never added flight to the game.

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5 months is plenty of time to go flightless. I don’t mind the running while leveling my first character but it gets old on alts.

Yes we did it all the time when you could buy flying at max level, somehow that sucked less though, maybe because then you could continue questing and be able to skip all the running.

The whistle is a so/so solution, after all it’s only good for max level characters. I would still prefer to finish a WQ, mount my dragon and fly off to whatever I want to do next.

I do like that pathfinder gives flight to everyone on the account. (I said this many times in other threads). But the wait until the 2nd part so some other rep requirement can be added to what’s already been done sucks butt. Especially since the new areas added usually can not be flown in even after flight is added.

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They tried to remove it when WOD started. The playerbase revolted in an unforgettable event…I was there and it was chaos.

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They didn’t say anything of the sort.

It’s more irritating when people try use “it’s X year” as if that’s suppose to mean something.

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You should do that, so you miss out on all the stuff that will be required for Pathfinder that you could do passively while waiting for flying.

Then come back to the game when flying is implemented and complain you have to do stuff for it.

Source: all the people that unsubbed until flying came out in Legion and then had to grind all the stuff they should’ve been doing beforehand.

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Right? People still doing that in 2019.

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We don’t even have the flagship races used to promote BFA yet. Flying is going to be a long time coming.

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I think everything they did saved wow… games that did not evolve have died. And as everyone knows, The list of failed MMOs is long.

In the end we will see. If classic hauls in a bunch of new subs and has more subs than modern then you were right. I dont think this is going to happen but who knows.

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Except that classic was a terrible game. Incomplete, barely any class design, gear dropping that nobody could use (INT plate helmets dropping for Horde, etc.).

I want WoW to go back to what made it successful, but there’s no way I’ll play classic wow. BC is when they actually finished their game design and got things right.

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