They could at least make flight paths instantaneous for a little extra gold while we all wait. I don’t need to the scenic route after then nine-thousandth trip to Drustvar.
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Classic forums are over there —>.
And WoW remains a game. Please stop trying to tell me I need to eat my veggies before I can enjoy it.
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I’m am very cynical and always felt like they did that out of spite not a ill timing. That is just my own opinion.
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It’s good for you because it forces you to risk being killed by enemy players, and to avoid dangerous obstacles like elite mob fields, cliffs, lava, etc. Like exercise, this may seem like an inconvenience, but like exercise it is actually good for you. Why? Because it makes the game actually challenging and challenge is what makes the game (and life generally) fun.
I don’t want to play classic. I want to play a fun version of 2019 wow. So do the dev’s. Hence pathfinder. You want to fly on a big ugly dragon or a glowing purple tiger, but if you get to do that it makes the game less fun for everyone. Why dont you quit being selfish and put those ugly mounts away permanently?
It’s not less fun for me, and since you aren’t paying my sub…
And I find it hilarious that you don’t want to play Classic, you just want to see the rest of the game stripped back to Classic levels of inconvenience.
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I don’t play with pvp enabled, I train past mobs I don’t care about, and fun is very much subjective.
There’s nothing challenging about running along a road and right clicking every now and then. And imho, there’s really nothing fun about getting dazed off my mount. Quite the opposite.
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I dont want classic levels of inconvenience. You obviously did not play classic. Currently, without flying, travel times are VASTLY shorter than in classic. You have WAY smaller zones, more flight paths, cheap epic mounts, a whistle (lol), two hearth stones with short cooldowns, and the capital cities and Dal are filled with portals, PLUS mages and locks. All of that can stay. (Meeting stones have to go though, they make locks and mages less useful).
PvP is a core feature of the game, the focus of the expansion, and the sole purpose of the underlying RTS (Warcraft). Maybe go play Skyrim with cheats enabled instead of ruining a core feature of this game because you want to RP a guy that flies a glowing purple tiger (with no wings).
Also, fun is not subjective. Humans can’t be happy or have fun without some level of challenge.
That’s the inherent problem. Blizzard has turned the game into something unlike an actual rpg to satisfy people complaining about time restraints, difficulty and lack of convenience. Current retail is barely a shadow of what vanilla/tbc was because of these people. Blizzard has sacrificed all community and gameplay immersion.
Going back and playing vanilla to level 30 really opened my eyes to how much current retail has lost. Instead of journeying through teldrassil, afraid of pulling too many mobs because the world is dangerous and you actually feel like a peasant, you get to ride around on a motorcycle in full heirloom gear 1 shotting quest mobs and flying through the content as quickly as possible with zero immersion.
Edit: I spent over 30 minutes trying to kill blackmoss the fetid in teldrassil on my rogue, using quest items, pots I picked up, and basically every ability I had learned by that point… after dying multiple times, when I finally killed him it felt glorious. A green I could use dropped and I got a quest item that started a quest chain. This whole experience is no where to be found in current retail.
Depends on the player that really.
My 120’s spend more time in legion and earlier because they can fly there. It actually adds to my play time. Its not a pita to do what I want, when I want. I also like to see my store mounts, you know, actually fly. Like the afterburner powered lizard. Love its flying animations. hate its walking ones.
Vice BFA where its analogous to a sleazy one night stand. Log in, check cache, maybe do them, leave. Love em and leave em lol…
Example from last night: My horde hunter pulled a 370 cache. I did not do it. Its the latest one, I have 2 days to do it. I hated her WQ layout for the zone. So I said screw it…I will do BFA work tomorrow and hope for better WQ’s.
Not lazy. I then took her to legion where she can fly to work on some legion loose ends for her. Fly in, do my thing, fly out. Rinse lather repeat as I fly all over the place.
I tire of GH’huun is gonna have my blood, and the other stock lines of NPC’s on the road. G’huun is not getting my blood blood troll. He can get a middle finger though…you go back and tell him that please blood troll.
Most of my 120’s like this. If a say 2 hour block of playtime it usually breaks down to 20-30 minutes in BFA, 1.5 hours in older content. Flying is a main reason why.
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I agree, but what content havent we seen where we can only be on our mounts? All the new content is instanced where you can’t fly to begin with. Maybe its incentive to go back to old content and level an allied race? (thats what im doing)
I pvp when I choose to, how I choose to. I don’t have any interest at all in the horde vs alliance plotline this expansion. I think the writing for it is questionable at best, and the storylines for the zones themselves are far more interesting.
If you seriously believe fun isn’t subjective, then there’s really not much discussion to be had here. Your idea of fun clearly isn’t the same as mine, and neither is your idea of challenge. Travel in this game isn’t hard. It isn’t challenging, or difficult, or epic or whatever else. It’s travel.
So I’ll be over here, having fun collecting cool things and flying around on my “ugly” dragons.
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And you wonder why so many players are quitting the game. Also, Warcraft had a single player mode. I didn’t even touch PvP in Warcraft I, and most of my multi-player games in Warcraft II were co-op vs the AI. Don’t project your preferences onto the rest of us. If you enjoy PvP, then good for you. I, for one, don’t get a lot of enjoyment out of having a fully PvP-geared player gank me when the world boss that’s about to reward me with that ilevel 320 piece of gear that’s still an upgrade for me is down to a sliver of health. That’s not engaging gameplay for me.
Fun is purely subjective. Many people out there don’t find WoW to be the least bit of fun, even at its best.
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“I dont have any interest at all in the horde vs alliance plotline.”
Hahahahaha.
And again, fun isn’t subjective. All people need the same fundamental thing to have fun. This has been studied.
The game is in decline because it caters to players with your preferences. Do you think single player types are what drove WC and SC sales?
There is nothing wrong with your preferences btw, they just happen to make this kind of game less fun for most other people.
I’m much more irritated by Blizzard having done nothing but hot fixing classes.
What does community have to do with flying? I will never understand how riding a virtual horse is somehow more immersive than riding a virtual gryphon. For me, the fact that every NPC in Kul Tiras is capable of piloting a gryphon while my many protodrakes are still grounded is pretty jarring as far as immersion goes.
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Yeah, they think players would have more fun by not flying. They were wrong. It’s almost like the players know what they want more than the developers do…
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I like being on the ground also, I also fly about 4 feet above the ground for the same reason, mining and herbalism.
I do sometimes want to be able to just up and fly, like getting to the world boss in Drustvar, or any of those mountains in Drustvar.
But for the most part I don’t think players like staying close to the ground for any reason once they can fly over the entire games worth of content.
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