Again, we wouldn’t want gear from one side of the game to overshadow gear from the other, that’s completely unheard of for WoW!!
Maybe the second time will get through, but I’m doubting it for some reason.
I don’t follow because it’s like you’re arguing for the balance to be worse than what it was originally designed to be and should be, it doesn’t make any sense
just make a clear reply without sarcasm so I don’t have to decode it
With the exception of MC and BWL, PvE gear is either on par or flat out better than gear obtained through PvP.
And even then, PvPers will still want plenty of gear from MC and BWL, or even ZG.
So you’ll have to excuse me if I have absolutely zero pity for any ultra try hard sweats who think they absolutely need to have R13 gear in order to clear the painfully easy MC and BWL tiers.
You can whine when PvP gets a legendary weapon that dominates PvE.
I’m talking about PVP, having the AQ patched pvp gear throws off the balance in pvp.
There is zero rank decay and they’re slow rolling access to the gear. Every single PvPer who wants the gear will have the gear.
In what upside down world is that not balanced?
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One time while i was searching for waylaid supplies i thought i saw a pvp. When the pvp was real i turned away and found a chest with the waylaid supplies. I got 15 silver for it.
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Yeah that’s the point, before that level of gear becomes commonplace, the balance of the game feels better. It will throw off the balance of the mc / bwl phases.
I’d be ok with it, if the gear had it’s original pre AQ buffed stats, and then they updated it inline with that phase. But they have stated before they would not do this.
It’s either about the PvE gear or the PvP gear. You can’t keep hopping back and forth.
The PvP gear is fine. You still need plenty of MC/BWL gear, and there’s still some better options available in those raids.
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You have lost me completely, sorry.
I’m talking specifically about the AQ patched r13 PVP sets negatively effecting the balance of PVP in the early phases.
The gear is overstatted for those tiers and don’t belong there I don’t know why instead of saying its fine, rather say hey yeah it would be better if it was at least the correct stats for the tiers.
If everyone who wants it is going to have it then the only thing you could possibly gain from this is just having the ability to obliterate pve players who want to dabble in pvp because your armor is from the future.
This has got to be the most convoluted trolling attempt I’ve ever been exposed to.
The rank 12/13 pieces will most likely be locked until BWL, meaning we’re kept to the rather underwhelming blue pieces for the duration of MC; and who knows how they’re changing up the different raids for SoD yet.
R12/13 are a bit better than most of the BWL drops, sure, (and this is not a universal truth across the classes) but given that we’re even being locked to R9 for a short while once 60 unlocks, I would not be surprised to see a similar time gate to each tier of PvP gear compared to the raid gear.
Either way, the very last thing Blizzard should be doing is finding new and exciting ways to punish PvP players for wanting to be rewarded for doing PvP. Enjoy being added to the ignore list, and good luck out there.
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I don’t know what part of what I am saying is trolling.
I am simply bringing up that the AQ buffed PVP set was not designed for the early phases. I do both pve and pvp I have no personal stake in this apart from wanting to the see the game be balanced as it should be.
Why doesn’t anyone ever say “hey, this raid gear is better than pvp gear, so this raid gear needs to be tuned down”? Bunch of raid centrists.
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At Revered with Warsong Gulch you get level 25 weapons
It is pointless talking on these boards. “Shut up pvp guy”…the history of wow has always favored pve vs pvp. If they only knew how cool and addictive those bgs are though for so many of us…better than any dumb raid…but they want us all killing dragons instead of having war in the world of warcraft…lmao…cant wait till this sub dies along with any interest i have left in this game. I see the good fight being fought here, unfortunately, they arent helping…they are gatekeeping OLD set pieces…r13 not until aq…gotta keep the pvp guys inferior to the raiders…okay blizz u win pve wins. meanwhile they put effort into new items in raids…ok.blizz u win. Pvp guy quits.
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honestly though, that is NOT “retail” mindset infecting classic, i pvp in retail and i literally poop down pve geared peoples throats bc of my conq gear. Heck i can even poop down tier set pve’rs in green honor gear lmao
Well retail’s useful pvp gear is through esports. The principle that is retail like here is that pvp gear from rep and honor are not viable against raid gear. That you are corralled into raids/keys to progress your gear (that is, gear that is good anywhere in the world). There aren’t enough pieces of decent gear. So each phase needs a pvp gear grind that keeps up with pve gear. Like in classic.
We wont see new “PvP” gear in SoD, Im sorry.
The only difference between PvE and PvP is the prioritization of stamina inside a vanilla client. Even if they added new gear with resilience, or some other PvP only stat on it, they would be forced to make the main & secondary stat values on them laughably small compared to raid gear to not cause an uproar from PvE only players who don’t want to feel “forced” into grinding honor, or rep because “PvP” gear becomes relevant (even though the min max crowd is 100% already farming WSG exalted for the rewards it’ll provide as we level up, but that’s none of my business).
So raid gear would still be PvP BIS, provided it has stamina on it because damage is king.
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Premades ruined it.
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I think since it is classic re-worked, it would be nice to have an option of both pve & pvp bis gear, just sayin.
I don’t understand all of the PvE players complaining about PvP gear like it affects their brainless mind numbing raid simulator.
There is a reason WoW has factions and PvP servers. SOD is not classic. Considering it had a total class rework. PvP players don’t want to sit there and farm (Brainless Mind Numbing) PVE content just to be able to compete in PvP content.
PvP Gear should be better in PvP than PvE gear.
If you don’t want to PvP, then don’t.
PvE Gear should be better in PvE than PvP Gear.
If you don’t want to PvE, then don’t.
That way both types of players can get what they want and enjoy the content as to how they choose. Why is it so hard to understand blizzard?