Where's the pvp gear?

You dont have a voice and you’re not being heard. The guy canceling is, because voting with your wallet is all that counts.

Proactive people will voice their concerns.

Whiners will. Proactive people will do things, like moving on and cancelling their sub. Complaining is the opposite of being proactive.

I just looked. The weapons are better than meteor shard by 5 dps (18 vs 23). The shoulders have +8 agi +8stam vs the AH ones where you choose one or the other, the helms are better than engi goggles, etc

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This is pretty silly, being that BFD gear is full of pure spell damage and green gear only has one element, not as high spell damage and no +stam +int at all. There is no comparision. BFD laps AH gear. If the two players were fighting you’d see much much more than a 15% difference in power.

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The melee dagger is an exception… it has as much DPS as the two-handed weapons that drop from BFD. I think Blizzard might have over-tuned that one particular weapon by accident.

Meteor Shard is ilvl 29. Almost all of the gear from BFD is ilvl 30. They should be basically equal. However, Chipped Bite of Serra’kis just happens to be ilvl 35. It’s the only ilvl 35 item that drops in BFD. That might be a mistake.

This is pretty silly, being that BFD gear is full of pure spell damage and green gear only has one element, not as high spell damage and no +stam +int at all. There is no comparision. BFD laps AH gear. If the two players were fighting you’d see much much more than a 15% difference in power.

No, it’s about 15% difference. That’s how item levels work.

Pve gear always beat pvp gear even at 60 in classic. Pvp item were just filler items until you got better pve gear. That didnt change until TBC when they added resilance gear.

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its weird cause im not lvl 19 im level 25 so i need the 20-29 bracket items but they require lvl 28

They already have… History repeating

FORCE PVE TO PVP = SOD = Failure

classic died off in 2019 version as soon as Raid gear started 1 tapping people
Same with som

They need to figure out that there is a much much larger base of the classic pop that enjoys pvping and not raiding whatsoever.

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There was almost the inverse problem in classic 2019, where they released the pvp gear with the AQ patch buffs in place instead of the original “phase 1” stats.

It basically overturned the balance of the bwl patch which is when pve gear started to fill some slots and you had a nice balance of gear and a lot of people with the ability to be competative.

In classic r13 was just equipped and your mind was turned off from then on because it was so strong.

I heard they are holding off the epic pvp gear until AQ patch with SOD so that might be a nice thing, as long as pvp’rs can still get the blue set.

AQ gear obsoletes epic PVP gear. So if they do that it’s really stupid.

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depends on the class and spec, but it’s arguably more desirable to have it released when it was intended to be rather than being imba in the prior 2 phases

90% Of b net forums are cry babies, i hope blizzard does not take feedback from the whine forums.

They’ve also updated WSG vendor to sell level 25 versions of the weapons.

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yeah no it doesn’t we talking pvp, not pve…r 13 for mage is literal bis forever in classic,

On this note, I have almost zero interest in phase 4.X because I dislike how Naxx gear breaks the game. Phases 1-3 are/will be pog but everything past the new Kara raid has almost zero appeal to me at the moment.

and extended bwl phase without AQ patched r13 sets seems pretty appealing, I think that’s about the best time of the game

Tier 2 might be fun to be fair. Raid gear is starting to pull out ahead but it’s still in the realm of sanity. It just depends what new PvP or PvE content they add.

Miss me with Naxx though like I said. :man_shrugging:

Less that they’re holding back the gear, and more that they’re slow rolling ranks until then.

Rank 9 cap for the first few weeks of level 60, with R14 only becoming available with AQ

Ah, probably means we will have r13 sets out before / during bwl, that’s a bummer I dream that they would release it with its pre-AQ stats so it’s not imba

Yes, we wouldn’t want gear from one side of the game to be a bit better than gear from the other side, that would be completely unheard of in WoW!

a little? you can hardly compare a r13 warrior to a bwl geared one as a basic example. The gear is quite literally from the next tier, and even during AQ you would at most substitute only a few pieces.