I just died a little inside watching that
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WDYM? I am fully aware that in BoD the goto spec for frost was Bone Chilling and GS. Been there, was playing it: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/ragnaros/morinass?zone=24#zone=21 (unfortunately no CE, and no log for barricade, but it’s dead)
Also You should link the 8.1 one, not the 8.1.5
I also always link from 99 parsing top 10 mages, idk what you getting here.
First, didn’t say it was “top tier”, only it wasn’t the PvP spec anymore. Second, if it’s the PvP spec, why does it have nearly as many parses as Fire for all of those?
Ok… so damage is the only metric. Gotcha. Now how do you calculate that damage? Pure log numbers assigned as pet damage on a third party website and ignore any potential damage gained through pet interaction?
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If you look at my ilvl it was in heroic to mythic
range for season 3. I was literally beating other carries trying to help my guild. But even if i linked an above average heroic parse you wouldn’t care and wouldn’t care even if i wasn’t trying hard because that’s what you do. You’d literally tell blizzard to ignore over half the player base based on your personal attacks against me and my “low skill”
All this to mask your lack of experience with the spec.
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Ad populum fallacy.
And I would be happy if like there were a boss where frost would be the go-to spec in MoP, but in all cases frost lagged behind. It wasn’t top tier, it was not even mid-tier.
If the spec cannot be used in PvE then it cannot really be a PvE spec? MoP might have been the stepping stone it being a PvE spec, heck Blizz started experimenting on it back in Cata with making Deep freeze hit extra hard on targets that are perma immune to stuns, but the REAL progress came when Blizz introduced Flurry and we could put temporal frozen effects on targets.
I literally gave you like a list 10 posts earlier. Did you even read it?
If you are in mythic level gear and parsing a blue in normal you arent good.
You wont link it because it doesnt exist lol.
Its cute you think half the playerbase cares about ele.
I am not hiding naything. You just dont know what you are talking about Zerida has literally proved that.
The blue parse is controlling for ilvl. You started off saying it didn’t matter so not sure what you’re getting at. My rating goes up when it’s controlled for. I’m literally parsing higher than almost 75% of the player base and you’re calling me garbage.
warcraftlogs
com/character/us/proudmoore/nelluced?zone=24#zone=23&difficulty=4&boss=2298
Literally parsing over half the player base and it’s still not my main game mode. You can be quiet now.
Sorry this was confusing because:
Sounded like you were going in a totally different direction.
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Ok, here is where I know you’re talking out your behind and don’t remember history well. Deep Freeze did that back in WotLK. Cata only brought in forced procs via, and say it with me, permanent Elemental freeze. Further iterating on it with Frost Bomb force proc in MoP. Cata also brought in Frost’s first Mastery: Increased damage on frozen targets.
If you’re talking about the post that Nelluced replied to with a rebuttal pointing out how Frost fit that, then yes.
Damn you are relentless in using this.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/8#boss=1778 As it was in WoD.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/17#boss=2088 and it was pretty bad in Legion.
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You clearly dont understand how logs work. That 72% is ONLY against frost mages at the 3 ilvl spread. It doesnt mean youre parsing above 75% of the playerbase LOL
No you arent.
With this log
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/proudmoore/nelluced?zone=24#zone=23&difficulty=4&boss=2298
You are parsing 57th percentile out of 7069 parses.
Versus Fire mages having 23,000 + parses
Versus Arcane mages having 11,307.
Actually you can be quiet because you are parsing 57% in the least played spec.
Counting all mages youd probably be in the bottom 20%
Okay so i’m better than most in my spec. Thanks for confirming. That’s a fairer assessment than comparing potentially unequally balanced specs.
See above. You said it didn’t exist then you moved the goalpost with this detail.
You’re attacking my skill at mage so focusing it to mage players specifically makes my comments even more true. If mage was overtuned it might not be an accurate measurement of my skill
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You paresed decently on one fight which is the first boss on a unpopular spec where its easier to parse on.
I didnt move the goalpost, You said you were playing above 75% of the playerbase and I showed you arent LOL.
Something would have to exist in order for me to attack it.
Them tryin’ to “Ad populum fallacy.” us when at no point did we say anything about majority, yet it’s been repeated by them countless times.
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I think he wants to convince me to play fotm so i can be as unhappy as he is, arguing about a class i love but can’t play. That bitterness man. Wreaks of jealousy.
He’ll be happier once he learns to have fun in a game.
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And not a single of these changes helped frost to become a relevant factor in PvE at their time. Logs prove me right.
Then you know my standard. Comgrats. So damage is not the only important factor but one of it.
This is my first time using it. And it has nothing to do with ‘majority’, but with you saying ‘a large number of people beleive it so, therefore it’s true’
Did you even look at these?
Both times frost is mid tier. So perfectly viable. And secondly in the second link frost is the best mage spec there, since fire/arcane are dead last. Thanks for making my point for me lol.
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This is where you should probably stop making assumptions.
- I dont care what you play. It has zero bearing on me.
- I am not unhappy. Also not playing FOTM. I have over 300 days played as a rogue over the course of this game.
- If I wanted to play mage I could.
Already happy, I dont let clueless people on the forums affect my happiness.
You’re a twisted person if you feel happy dumping that much clueless acrimony on someone.
I’m just going to assume you’re lying so i have a higher opinion of you.
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You mean correcting people who claim to be on the same level I am when they are no where close? Its not my fault you make claims and cant stand being proven wrong.
I honestly dont care what you assume because its 100% wrong like everything else you have an opinion on.
Did I? I said that once in relation to seasonal participation, chill out man. I already clarified that too. Geez.
You claimed i didn’t play at all last season. I proved otherwise.
Which again said response was me showing you you were wrong about me again. You’re far too fragile to be spewing attacks on other people if mere comparisons of seasons participated in scare you. I never said i parsed as high, killed as many players etc. The only thing i question is the commitment to the class clealry demonstrated by massive gaps in class mechanics as well as logs. And the fact you seem to only want to post on your rogue.
Also you show investment in the class with these massive fights but don’t play it. If that’s not bipolar commitment i don’t know what is
Especially in the context of your saying you’re not under any duress to play anything else…
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You also said
Which was incorrect.
You also said
and Logs also determined that was a lie.
Bringing up old stuff I already commented on. Either way you didnt PVE last season. You did Solo Shuffle to 1200 and thats it.
Also meaning you arent even good at pvp.
The only thing that matters is you arent good at the game and the logs/pvp rating show that. you can keep nitpicking little things like normal/heroic logs on a low played spec or struggiling at 1200 CR in SS if you want but it just goes to further prove you dont have any idea what youre talking about.
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By technicallity, yes but what you were actually measuring, no.
We’re measuring my skill on this class.
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