When is faction imbalance going to be addressed?

He may be referringt o cases like Method, who swapped in MoP.

I am new to this rather large topic. Can someone tell me briefly how the Horde is better, if you will, than the Alliance?

Have you seen us? :muscle:

How you gonna make alliance look like the tough kids on the block?

Iā€™ve figured it out guys
I have the answer.

Dear blizzard;
from this point on please make all alliance weapons and shoulders twice as big as the hordes

Fam.

You didnā€™t.

Thatā€™s literally not the definition of a mathematical proof.

You literally just copy and pasted the tooltips of the racials and said that was proof. You didnā€™t bother to use ANY math to prove your point. You could have even given statistical proof but you couldnā€™t neither are you capable of doing that.

Ok, hopefully racials arenā€™t the ONLY thing that appeal to you. I was talking in the larger sense of the game and i think Alliance has gotten some good racials (maybe they arenā€™t, just my opinion) but i guess i can see how you got to talking about racials from what i said.

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You mean a literal self-insert character who is really badly written and stupidly powerful for the person he is?

You mean the one who literally abandoned the faction she was never /really/ a part of after shouting ā€œThe Horde is nothing!ā€

ā€“Meanwhile people actually like Anduin (Iā€™m talking the citizens of Stormwind, not the players. Sylvanas had opposition) and donā€™t look at him shifty-eyed discounting his recent ascension to the throne and inexperience soon to be amended.

N.E. master race 2020 n shadowlands

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Oh I agree I donā€™t even play NE on my alliance char :stuck_out_tongue:

generally speaking, people choose their mains/characters to actually play by the racials.

To be fair, Motors has been on-point with his arguments. His opponents in this thread are just coping at this point and out-gunned in terms of arguments. Seems like Motors is winning even though itā€™s basically a 1v4 or 1v5 with Motors being the 1 :thinking:

Anyways, Iā€™ll duck on out of here for now. Carry on pleaseā€¦ Iā€™m rather enjoying reading this little ā€œexchangeā€ between you guys :joy:

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I did.

I literally explained it to you as to why the void elf racial was superior to you. Likeā€¦if I break it down any further, its just going to tell me you donā€™t understand how math works.

That is literally statistical proof for anyone who has a basic understanding of math.

1% crit = 1% more damage.
Void elf racial= 5% damage increase

Reading the tooltip alone tells you that in a perfect situation where you have a zandalari shadow priest going up against a void elf shadow priest will result in th void elf shadow priest dealing 1% more damage than the zandalari shadow priest.

I say perfect world, because crit is still RNG, and occassionally despite having 4% more crit, you arenā€™t critting 4% more often.

Nowā€¦when you factor in that they are only up for 12 second in an ideal world, the actual damage contribution of these racials is about a 1% increase.

Mind you, this applies for nearly ALL the racials that have a damage component for them, including the troll racial mini lust.

Soā€¦when you do a side by side comparison, and do a damage comparison using basic math, alliance racials confer a greater benefit of less than 1%.

So why are alliance racials better?
They have more utility, such as shadowmeld or haymaker.

And that is why no one takes alliance players like you who cry about racials seriously.

Only in a very SLIM PORTION of the playerbase does that occur. If what you were saying was the truthā€¦there would be absolutely no diversity at all in the player population.

So generally speaking, no it does not. The largest portion of the playerbase is Blood Elf and if they all chose their ā€œmainsā€ because of the racialā€¦they all failed as it is by far not the best for almost anything or in any way.

BE racial WAS one of the best for a long time, hell its still great in mythic plus.

I picked my forsaken back in vanilla for wotf for pvp. Virtually everyone i know picked their toon (the ones they actually play on, not profession alts or somesuch like this guy) with racials in mind.

RPers are a very very small portion of the population

Ok, that is you and that is fine, but to say it is a general thing is not true. I didnā€™t say that racials donā€™t matter, but your assertion was

And even you have played others (almost like fotm racials, nothing wrong with that im just making an observation), i just donā€™t see it being the general population doing that. However i have seen it and witnessed it in the game AT THE HIGH END where min/maxing matters but only in that specific instance.

Edit, you added more:

It has very little to do with RPerā€™s. Even now look at the HUGE amount of people that are going to play Vulpera (which by the way will exacerbate the problem even more) and how those racials look. Racials just simply arenā€™t that crucial in the grand scheme of the game unless you are a min/maxer or someone who wants to be. They matter, they just donā€™t matter exclusively to the general population as you asserted.

I have problems with this, and itā€™s all because the devs refuse to flesh out the alliance.

Anduin should be hated by the nobles houses of Stormwind. Heā€™s young, heā€™s physically attractive, a war hero, and heā€™s still single. How many unwed noblewomen has he brushed off because he was too busy playing war (from their detached perspectives)?

Stormwind post BFA should be going all Game of Thrones, and people should get really, really nervous whenever anyone mentions a royal wedding. Because if youā€™ve been paying any attention at all, even ā€œboring humansā€ can be violently entertaining at weddings.

But whatā€™s going to actually happen?

If Anduin ever gets hitched itā€™s going to happen in a mediocre novel that roughly 12 people end up reading. Kind of like the Makā€™gora that killed Baine (somehow, I am one of those 12).

ā€¦you know, as opposed to an epic series of quest chains and quest lines that see you hacking through the stormwind and deposed Lordaeron nobility as you fend off a sea of back-stabbing, greedy, conniving noblewomen and their plans to become the next queen of all humans (which naturally comes down to a possibly devastating choice between Taelia Fordragon and Tess Greymane).

But it wonā€™t happen because itā€™s not Horde story, and therefore the devs donā€™t care.

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Are you insinuating Anduin is a homosexual?

Maybe when the alliance actually gets some exciting content and not just 40 horses and some obese humans.

Iā€™m insinuating that itā€™s ultimately none of our business, but heā€™ll need an heir eventually. So, it donā€™t matter. Heā€™s a king.

Ethical.
Uldir world rank 95
Ep world rank 19 (world 5 of lady ashvane)

That was done on oce servers so you will try saying the faction balance is the other way around which is true but to say there are more ally players in oce than NA is just foolish.