Your argument seems hinged on Liadrin knowing what M’uru’s plans were while she was draining him slowly dry. She did not. She only learned of them AFTER the blatantly evil Kael’thas stole him from her, and buddying up with A’dal and Shattrath was the next best option for the Blood Knights.
M’uru’s plans hinged on Quel’thelas unrepentantly torturing him to death.
Not to be a wet blanket on that notion, but NPCs are capable of moving, in the lore. She could have died ferrying refugees off of Teldrassil.
No. My argument hinges on Muru volunteering.
That is simply the fact.
Whether Liadrin knows or not is inconsequential. Muru volunteered for the job.
still oof.
The title does lack sympathy.
It is though based on what we’re talking about. Liadrin didn’t know M’uru volunteered to be captured. To her knowledge, M’uru was an entirely unwilling captive.
She doesn’t get a free pass for horrific misdeeds because she found out later her prisoner was willing to be subject to their slow torture. She only found out he volunteered after Kael’thas took him to Kil’jaeden, WELL after she had done everything to him.
That depends on who is doling out these proverbial “free passes”.
Deviating from what Velen had foreseen could have produced a different outcome. For better or worse. The outcome Velen, Adal, and Muru sought came about because Liadrin did as was foretold.
Muru volunteered for this mission, to those ends.
Velen and Adal seemed to be OK with it in the end.
All well and good, but not really applicable to the conversation scrutinizing Liadrin. You’re just stating what occurred, and that still lands Liadrin in a pretty damn negative light, regardless of what free pass she’s given in lore.
Liadrin got lucky because she played the part of the villain, just as the Naaru and Velen expected her to.
There was a desperation among the Blood Elves that was acceptable to Muru and Adal as a cause worth sacrificing for - by their choice. It also advanced their particular goals.
They put sustenance in front of a starving people, to spare them the cruel fate that awaited Kaelthas and his followers.
The Blood Elves consumed that sustenance, which was willingly and purposely lain before them.
That doesn’t excuse anything. Again, you’re just stating what occurred.
I have no excuses. Just what happened, and my view about it.
If it was up to Muru, Adal, and Velen, and they were OK with it, for their reasons, then it seems Liadrin is only guilty of being predictably desperate to a very accurate degree.
Predictable of acting like someone who would drain someone to death for their own benefit, then get off Scott free on a fluke. Which is what the original supposition was about.
So I’m unsure why you’ve decided to argue over something you know to be true. Again.
It was Adal and Muru’s plan. Not hers. She was not aware of it.
She ultimately was not her own judge. If she got off scott free, that was by the choice of other characters, who forgave her actions as part of their vision.
You seem to wish to apply another layer of guilt upon her based on your interpretation. I do not agree.
And here we’ve come full circle.
One could say we never left the point of origin.
We did, and I’m unsure why you chose to take us from it.
Any actions Liadrin did were according to the will of the Naaru, and the Naaru willingly participated. Adal and Velen were OK with it.
The criticisms of Liadrin are misplaced.
Saying the same thing over and over again is not going to magically make it applicable to what the topic of discussion was.
You seem to miss the point. Ignoring it does not erase canon facts.
If people want to contrive reasons to be upset that are not backed by lore, that is another issue.
Nobody’s erasing canon facts here. In fact, the reasons to be irritated with Liadrin are entirely based in lore, as much as you’d like to ignore it.
Saying “x is okay with it” means nothing.