What WoW token would do to TBC (BLUE POST Clarification Plz)

[Ederick-ashkandi]

Considering that problem is literally impossible to solve, in this case an imperfect solution is better than an impossible solution

[Zinqf-herod]

@Wam-herod

People are so inclined to scream for WoW token instead of asking Blizzard to properly police bots and gold buyers

Bots and gold buyers do get policed. But there’s always such a high demand for it that the consequences do not outweigh the risk.

I could see blizzard simply not doing this because we didn’t have this in TBC. But you’d see an even higher frequency of GDKP runs and ridiculous gold values as a result.

[Frosto-faerlina]

@Drinknblink-whitemane

How does someone in another raid who is buying the carry make me have less fun?

Ah, I didn’t see you ask this before, but that’s a good question.

It affects you by reducing your buying power with the gold that you do have, for anything that is regularly purchased via gold through player-to-player (including auction house) sales.

I suppose now that you’ve asked, and I think it through a little more, if you are regularly selling things, the prices you sell them for are increasing with inflation, so it might not actually have that negative of an impact overall on the value of the gold you earn.

[Zinqf-herod]

@Frosto-faerlina

But, it’s addressing the wrong problem, imo. The issues isn’t bots or RMT sellers. It’s players who a buying gold.

The issue is all 3.

@Frosto-faerlina

That actually lowers the quality of the game for the rest of the people who play.

Players buying RMT does lower the quality of the game for the rest of the people who play. It’s a shame…its also a reality that plagues any game that has trade. Heck even Diablo 3 practically disabled trade to stop the RMT.

[Profits-mankrik]

@Drinknblink-whitemane

people who buy stuff have no bearing on my fun in the game

until you go to buy consumes for raiding and find out that everything is 10x the price it used to be because gold inflation

lmao

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Frosto-faerlina

Ah, I didn’t see you ask this before, but that’s a good question.

It affects you by reducing your buying power with the gold that you do have, for anything that is regularly purchased via gold through player-to-player (including auction house) sales.

I suppose now that you’ve asked, and I think it through a little more, if you are regularly selling things, the prices you sell them for are increasing with inflation, so it might not actually have that negative of an impact overall on the value of the gold you earn.

The thing is there’s a finite amount of gold you need to be able to maintain your play style. Especially after the only real major expenditure which is epic flying. Beyond that amount gold doesn’t have a huge amount of value beyond just being epeen points.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Profits-mankrik

@Drinknblink-whitemane

people who buy stuff have no bearing on my fun in the game

until you go to buy consumes for raiding and find out that everything is 10x the price it used to be because gold inflation

lmao

Then I simply sell something on the AH also at 10x inflation.

[Littlerascal-area-52]

I love this rash of threads DEMANDING a blue post on WoW Tokens.

Good luck with that. Wish in one hand, spit in the other, see which one gets full first.

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

Nope.

I said bearing on my fun, not my pockets.

I also always have gold.

I farm or sell boosts.

I will also sell things for 10x the price just like them rofl.

[Çòñfêss-anathema]

Yep. There’s one reason I’m playing classic, because it’s not retail and lacks BS like tokens, lfd, etc

[Ederick-ashkandi]

Wasn’t it the classic crowd who was espousing the virtues of how the game was designed to encourage community and interaction? Being part of a group for a shared purpose? Where did that go?

Have a guildy farm up some mats, pay them a discounted rate and help out in turn when they need something, you know, be a community.

[Zinqf-herod]

@Çòñfêss-anathema

Yep. There’s one reason I’m playing classic, because it’s not retail and lacks BS like tokens, lfd,

This is also a myth. Most people don’t play retail because

• There’s a lot of new things that take a lot of time to get used to
• A lot of things in Classic that you have experience jumping into, but you have to learn them all in Retail.
• Nothing to be nostalgic about
• Having to jump into a new community in 202X.
• Practically playing a completely different game than the one you left long ago.
• Why would you sink any of this time into the game when there’s no known payoff?
• No huge community jumping into the game to ride the viral streamer/youtuber hype off of.

And if you don’t believe that last one, take a look at WoW Vanilla Classic and WoW TBC Classic. It’s a clear example that people play the game that has the hype built behind it. Once the hype dies, the game doesn’t matter.

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Calling for “blue” to clarify is beyond cringe

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Zinqf-herod

@Çòñfêss-anathema

Yep. There’s one reason I’m playing classic, because it’s not retail and lacks BS like tokens, lfd,

This is also a myth. Most people don’t play retail because

• There’s a lot of new things that take a lot of time to get used to
• A lot of things in Classic that you have experience jumping into, but you have to learn them all in Retail.
• Nothing to be nostalgic about
• Having to jump into a new community in 202X.
• Practically playing a completely different game than the one you left long ago.
• Why would you sink any of this time into the game when there’s no known payoff?
• No huge community jumping into the game to ride the viral streamer/youtuber hype off of.

And if you don’t believe that last one, take a look at WoW Vanilla Classic and WoW TBC Classic. It’s a clear example that people play the game that has the hype built behind it. Once the hype dies, the gam e doesn’t matter.

Don’t forget that the actual game play in retail has been pretty garbage for awhile now in general. I basically leveled in retail in SL which was fine and then realized that max level was just more of the same junk that’s made retail suck for awhile now. Time gated flying, ability pruning with expansion specific abilities locked behind a massive grind, raiding is either lfr or mythic progression, dungeons are just speed runs of mythic+.

[Zinqf-herod]

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Don’t forget that the actual game play in retail has been pretty garbage for awhile now in general.

Subjective. Probably true but still subjective lol.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

I basically leveled in retail in SL which was fine

A lot of people have positive things to say about the leveling process but not the endgame.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Time gated flying

Sounds annoying.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

ability pruning

That’s why I stopped playing Cata and didn’t even jump into Panda.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

expansion specific abilities locked behind a massive grind, raiding is either lfr or mythic progression, dungeons are just speed runs of mythic+

All things I don’t know about, nor am I looking to spend the time to learn about or care. Oh hey, that’s my point lol…

[Fayld-westfall]

@Zinqf-herod

Sounds annoying.

The way he described it doesn’t do justice for just how annoying it is lol. I did pathfinder for retail right before classic dropped and it was infuriating.

[Zinqf-herod]

@Fayld-westfall

The way he described it doesn’t do justice for just how annoying it is lol. I did pathfinder for retail right before classic dropped and it was infuriating

TBC has time gated flying too. In WotLK your alts can skip that leveling gate with the cold-weather book.

[Drain-windseeker]

Tokens wouldn’t be any worse than boosting. This war is already lost. It’s only a matter of time now.

[Fayld-westfall]

@Zinqf-herod

TBC has time gated flying too.

It has been 15 years, but I don’t recall it being a giant reputation grind stalled behind dailies.

[Zinqf-herod]

@Fayld-westfall

It has been 15 years, but I don’t recall it being a giant reputation grind stalled behind dailies

Nah, in TBC the giant reputation grind is what happens when you actually play the game.