- Sure people would buy them, and it wouldnt feel like that big of a deal in the beginning
- Sure people buy gold off websites and so forth, but a company encouraging Pay 2 Win which TBC format would be, would be a monumental disaster.
Imagine every single phase the work that you put into your character was destroyed because every single player in the game spent money to get the best gear.
Literally the whole system would collapse as well; the AH would be garbage because all things that would go up for sale would tank into nothing.
Sure WOW tokens work in future iterations of WoW… but in TBC the way the game is based… and played, it would destroy the product permanently… and kill off WOTLK
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Lessen gold value by a lot.
Gold is all but worthless in retail unless you’re buying glad or carries.
Typically speaking raiding costs far less than the amount of gold people make.
So I think it will transition that way into TBC, gold will have a very diminished value.
People were already buying carries in TBC, won’t be any different now.
Also you can already buy gold and buy the best gear, what changes?
This is what I don’t get, people who buy stuff have no bearing on my fun in the game. It doesn’t diminish my experiences with friends and guildies. It doesn’t take away from the fun I have with them.
You all need to stop basing your fun off of what others can buy.
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I don’t want the WoW token in the game, but I wouldn’t help myself and buy 20 tokens in the first week.
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Exactly.
Vanity sure,
WoW tokens, Game over.
The moment this becomes a thing, I cancel both accounts; and Ill also just play Diablo 2 without getting the resurrected as I would have anticipated to do.
Inevitably, the final nail in my time with WoW.
Thats my personal opinion, I am sure everyone else will have their own opinions.
p.s. and no, you won’t see me in WoTLK.
I don’t care if it drops on Sunwell, Ill be done done.
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People are far richer than me in the world and can buy better things that doesn’t diminish my life or my fun.
I think everybody is typically too caught up in what people can buy.
If me and my guild have a blast drinking beers killing bosses and I love doing it every week why does it matter that someone else is buying it somewhere else how does that impact me and my fun?
Y’all just crazy. I’m out here just living my best life having a blast.
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Its not really about being rich or poor its about …
ok there are a percentage of people that actually buy gold.
now imagine if everyone buys gold, nothing is worth anything on the AH at all. GDKPs would be 100% every single run.
GDKP heroic mechanar
GDKP Setthek Halls… Oh SPELLSTRIKE dropped… big bid boiiiis
literally everything.
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Subjective. This “pay 2 win” concept has existed for a very long time. Adding in an extreme amount of “legitimate gold sellers” in the form of “ALL OF THE PLAYERS” drastically reduces the value of gold due to the incredibly high amount of competition.
When more gold is needed to buy a WoW token and the value of the WoW token stays $20, then gold starts losing its RMT value very quickly.
For example, Classic gold had a value of $1.12 per gold early on and eventually as more people gained more gold, they have it around $60 per 1000 gold (6 cents per gold).
With TBC coming into play we could easily see this value cut in half (3 cents per gold), due to how easily it is to farm gold. There will still be bots though because the bot farms will still be making more gold in TBC also.
Add in the WoW token and you end up with numbers like 5000 gold per WoW token, the price of gold ends up becoming 250 gold per $1 or 2/5ths of one penny per gold. And that’s just the foot of the mountain as more gold is in the economy, the price of the WoW token continues to soar as bot farms only make as much as they did when TBC releases.
Obviously people will not buy from RMT websites if you get way more gold by selling a WoW token, so the RMT websites would need to undercut the WoW token which gets to some hilarious numbers where it doesn’t even become profitable to run a bot in several cases. And even if they make it work somehow, the profits are so fractional in a system that could outprice them the very next day due to WoW token volatility.
TLDR - As someone who hates when people buy gold from RMT websites, the WoW token has been and still is the perfect solution.
And as gold value sinks the prices of items in the ah will go up and you need even more gold. Any person unwilling to spend real money in game will be pushed further out. Screw pay to win and screw the token
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Idk retail prices for consumes are pretty dirt cheap.
Also if what you say does become true that just means professions make more gold.
easy topic for me, if token is in then I’m out.
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Gold is far too important to TBC and Vanilla gold farming is a core part of these games eliminating the need for many to gold farm reduces their playtime. Then they complain the game is dead nothing to do blah blah then we get mechanics like legendaries and azurite that are literally pointless farms that are far less interesting and far more essential than gold farming.
People forget gold farming is not necessary to play the game it is helpful and important for many aspects but once you get a mount your spells etc you often can spend however many hours gold farming it is your choice. These retail systems require you to keep up with everyone else of you are screwed.
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We need a blue post on this issue, a claim that either there will be or there wont. There are thousands of people that don’t want to waste their time, if so.
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This only applies to people who RMT through WoW token and gold selling websites. The value of gold drops its RMT value when the WoW token is introduced because the WoW token fixes the price which creates competition for how much gold is offered for that price.
I feel like the people arguing against WoW token are the guys who shill for the RMT websites that spam my mailbox. Meanwhile, they think they are the guys combating “greed”.
It applies to everyone. What actions only some people take part in will cause a major disturbance to the economy as a whole.
Remember how the WoWtoken fixed the botting and selling issues on Retail?
Oh wait, it didn’t make any difference and just made gold worthless.
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We the players would like to know now if this is intended in TBC
We invested in your product
We need a yes or no statement.
As personally, we were already lied to about the slot bags, and many are able to forgive.
Though if you are going to throw this into the middle of TBC, its something we need to know.
We dont want to invest our time into your product of a Ponzi scheme that you are providing a shadow of what TBC is and morph it into a destroyed product.
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Lots of people are willing to pay a lot of gold for things, it’s actually kinda crazy.
Doing an experiment now in 2.5; anytime anyone needs mats, gold, etc in game and im aware I’ll just buy it or give them the gold. I have heaps, more than I’ll ever need in TBC on all my characters. It’s actually helped a lot of new players so far…
But gold token I do not feel is a good thing because it’s kinda community killing…
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As somebody who is usually the last person to be wealthy in game, you are dead wrong on this.
Ah prices going up is a good thing for broke players. Anybody who is willing to put in the work (oh the irony) in an expansive server can make absolute bank on selling mats (yes, even low level mats, and often especially mid level mats).
Will you be able to buy the best twink gear? No, will you be able to put into a bit of work and make a ton of gold comparative to your level? Very much so.
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Lmao wait so you think blizzard would come out now to tell you how they are going to profit on you later? Something they know if they said a mass of people would leave the game. You think they will come out now and say they will do this at a later time? Lol wow. Don’t try to run a business, my crystal ball says that won’t go well.
It’s not a solution at all. It’s like saying, “Botting is a problem. The perfect solution to the botting problem is for Blizzard to sell botting software and allow it within their EULA.”
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