Only if they agreed to it before dieing, for whatever reason. After they die, Forsaken, Death Knights, neither should be allowed to resurrect an innocent corpse .
Obviously I mean if they want to become Forsaken, all the power to them, they are essentially turning traitor. If they want to be killed and become Death Knights for the Alliance then whatever.
But again, any Forsaken raising Alliance corpses should be seen as an act of war.
Half wrong.
Moonglade or better Nighthaven has been the NE capital in Wc3.
So while NEs were not part of the alliance back then, the town itself is however NE territory.
It was a gameplay decision to make it neutral for horde druids to be able to enter there for druid quests. It is however a NE city and zone. Lorewise.
Also the Circle of cenarius is a NE organisation that has been opened for other races druids. But its leader is malfurion and it was founded by NEs and run by NEs.
After WC3 however tauren were allowed to join, and after that other races druids.
Thatās all I was getting at.
Leaving your nation for another nation doesnāt mean someone is a traitor. In this scenario the Horde isnāt a hostile nation since theyāre working with the Alliance/at peace.
Why regrow Teldrassil, the Ne move to Hyjal, all is fine.
Why not? I mean,wc3 night elves were the most liked night elves.
I think that reparations will never work and are more likely to create a sense of revenge for the one who has to make reparations. So in general I would rather say: None at all.
But signing a treaty never to attack the night elf territories again after what happened (unless they have to defend themselves) would not be a reparation in any world. It would simply be a treaty condition for peace, which in the end would only create a strong border.
The same could happen on the Alliance side where they officially gave up the territories of Lordaeron and QuelāThalas.
Gilneas will be allowed to be retaken by Worgen again and no attack will be allowed there either. On top of that, the pharmacists of the Forsake should help to heal the plague that contaminated the country, as they are the creators of the plague.
Because they can be trusted?
Havenāt we been there several times now?
You canāt fool me Shadnris!
Maiev and Tyrande said that.
It is not a question of trust but simply a realisation: reparations do not work, they have never worked, they have only created bigger and worse wars.
Remember the I world War, and thereafter the WW2, it was a direct reaction toward the Reperations of Versail.
Anything except Teldrassil, as its one of the discuss starting zones for the new Undead Allied Raceā¦ What factionā¦ is still unknown.
Iām joking I just made that up donāt mind meā¦ 
Thatās why I want a Nurnburg trial hold by the Wardens against the Horde and everyone who participated.
Occupation of Orgrimmar, we hold up a trial and take all teh loyalists and responsibles with us, then we leave. Then we can talk about peace after we ripped out the corrupted roots with a glaive.
True. They worked in WC3, where Kalimdor was by and large unexplored by humans or orcs. The world, and the nations that make it up, have changed a great deal. By and large, they were able to reconquer Darkshore and Ashenvale because it was for both sides a secondary front; the Alliance were focused on attacking Dazarāalor, and the Horde were focused on that not happening.
Even if the Night Elves going it alone could be justified in story terms (theyāre still not a match for the Horde on their own in Kalimdor, and theyāre about to lose their leader in the next expansion), Blizzard isnāt about to start pulling races out of the major factions.
While the humans are no doubt sympathetic to the Night Elves, something else to keep in mind: Every human and elvish capital in the Eastern Kingdoms has been destroyed at some point or another, typically involving mass death. And while Genn owes the Night Elves everything, bear in mind he also tried to go it alone, and paid a horrible price in the process.
Ƥhm, havenĀ“t you read the last novels, the Night elves are a threat toward the horde, on their own. Tyrande and Malfurion on the same place and the night elf army was to much for the Horde to handle, so they needet distraction. Even the General (Saurfang) said so and sylvanas admited. No, the night elves were already a faction in WC3 that could fight it on an equal terms with Horde and Alliance in their own forests without shame.
The night elves are powerfull defender, their entire Strategy is a strategy to defend themselve and its only logical, because they were once the one in charge to protect Nordrassil and the Well of eternity. They didnĀ“t want to capture other Territories, they have enough, but they are skilled in defending their stuff, highly skilled.
Yes we have seen that in WoT ā¦
I mean in the end the writers had to basically cheat in order to make it happen.
The ancients were missing, for example. And the only explanation was " We donĀ“t want to tell such an Story".
Because if the nightelves got everything they have, the horde would lose in such an war.
Ancients missing, Stone giants, Chimaeras.
Then appearently saufrang knows the forest better than the NEs which enabled them to sneak around darkshore for some reasons ā¦
Then we have had the inter continental catapults and paparmashe tree ā¦
Then what about Draeneis? Or the Vindicaar? That ship is basically flying with lightspeed or soā¦
Teldrassil tself would have been impossible to conquerā¦ how do you attack a fortress that is within teh ocean and that has vertical walls and no entryā¦
But of course it it can burn like gasoline for some reason ā¦ you donāt have to think about it.
The whole WoT was just writers completely cheating from start to finish.
Iāve played Horde the last two expansions and still like them but after BFAā¦woof. I need a break. Very hard to view my character as a hero when Iām following Nathanos around and doing bad guy stuff. At least with the new leveling experience I can avoid BFA completely in the future.
Playing Alliance will hopefully be a nice change of paceā¦go team space goat!
Thank you for making this, OP.
I now have a thread to point to for whenever someone asks why Iāve lost every ounce of sympathy I had for the Alliance playerbase.
Again, what you want is only beaten out of a defeated enemy.
The Alliance did not defeat the Horde, without Saurfang and the Horde divided against itself, it never would have had the chance, just as it was the Hordeās division that was the only reason the Alliance won the Second War after losing the First.
The Horde is united and will quickly leave your dreams of domination buried in the burning sands.
Boohoo someone has a different opinion than me ill just dehumanize the entire faction as if they were some kind of hivemind.
Please, we are hardly at fault that blizzard decided to nuke their fanbases this is only the fallout.
War reparations were an immoral policy that punished people who had no involvement in anything. It only ever lead to more war.
And trading around land (ie zones) as if the inhabitants didnāt matter is also not moral.
Thatās literally the exact same way I feel about you guys
Soooooā¦ this the nu iteration on the FOTM qq thread made by the actual irrational portion of the Ally and Nelf playerbase focused in āmuh Teldrassilā? (I mean, Nelf fans DO have A LOT to be angry about, but frankly after reading half of the answers this is clearly nothing more than inmflammable baitā¦
IĀ“ll say only this: ANY suggestion geared to directly humiliate and make miserable Horde players can only be justified with those players reaching F2P status (cause sorry, but If we have to become 2nd rate customers then me thinks we need some actual reparations from the company; after all we are not the ones demanding to get special treatment without actually paying for the premium experience).
Stop wasting the -probably- hard earned money of your parents; cause so far I can say the only thing youĀ“re achieving (and WILL achieve unless you take seriosuly your career) is to become a public health hazard.