What new Alliance races would people ACTUALLY play?

You know how it started. BfA introduced allied races, the first six announced being based on races that we already had. By the end of the expansion, Horde players were largely satisfied with the races they got, the two most divisive ones obviously being nightborne and vulpera, while Alliance players were largely unsatisfied with their allied race selection. There are several reasons for that, ranging from “These new races don’t interest me” to “I wanted real races and not reskins” to “The Horde got everything they asked for” (they didn’t, as they’re still fighting for ogres).

Coming out of the fourth year of allied race discussion and going into the fifth (I’m just as surprised as you are), it seems like compared to the far easier to placate Horde community, the Alliance community can’t come to a consensus on what they want from Blizzard, as they seem to be heavily divided on what they wanted during BfA and what they hope they get in the future.

Demand vs. Actual Popularity
One topic opened up by allied race discussion is whether the Alliance’s roster of races needs to be made more diverse. People have suggested adding more bestial or alien races (naga, arakkoa, ethereals, jinyu, sethrak, ankoan, etc.), but the Alliance’s most popular races are conventionally attractive ones (humans, night elves, draenei, void elves) and its least popular are the ones with the lowest broad appeal (pandaren, Kul Tirans, mechagnomes), so the mentioned NPC races would more than likely pull lower overall numbers than if you put them or something similar on the Horde. The people who are content with playing human paladins and night elf druids are clearly the majority.

There’s also a weird push for the Alliance getting reskins of the Horde’s non-elven races (e.g. holy orcs, holy undead, blood trolls, some variant of tauren, Steamwheedle goblins, Bilge Rat vulpera), most of which would fail commercially for similar reasons, the most likely one being the people that the Alliance attracts thinking “If I wanted to play Horde, I’d play Horde” and not being interested. You’d only really have people playing them to spite Horde players, and that’s not the kind of group you should appeal to.

New Blood vs. Old Guard
The pushback against the Alliance’s allied races has also proven that its players who want newer races are competing with the players who are more interested in older races finally becoming playable. Almost every Alliance allied race was hit with complaints that they weren’t some similar race introduced in WotLK or earlier with the exception of Dark Irons, who were requested as dwarf customization since vanilla. Void elves, in particular, were created to be a new direction for Thalassian elf lore, something new yet familiar with an identity unique from blood elves… and it backfired spectacularly because they weren’t the elves who are mainly known for being the blood elves’ foil from TBC to Legion.

If Blizzard were to only appeal to the old race crowd, the complaints about them not giving the Alliance anything new would pile up, so the only preferable outcome would be to please both sides; the new players get their weird new alien and lion man races while the veterans and pretend veterans get their ethereals and arakkoa, whichever one being more popular depending on the execution. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

Class Selection
I feel it’s also important to take into account what classes that future races have, namely paladin and druid. Very popular classes, but we have about 6 races that only have paladins, 4 that only have druids, and 2 that have both (and even then, those last two are both on the Horde), so the next Alliance race having one or both classes would go a long way to making it a smash hit. Look at the above-mentioned void elves; they’re popular despite being initially polarizing, easily the most played Alliance allied race, but that popularity has led to people campaigning for them to get paladins and/or druids since they have neither.

So, the optimal outcome is that the Alliance get at least two new races in the future, and they both have to be some combination of:

  • Attractive to people who like “pretty” races like humans, draenei, Zandalari, and vulpera or typical fantasy races like elves, dwarves, undead, and worgen
  • Attractive to people who like niche races like gnomes and pandaren
  • Not be something widely considered unattractive like Kul Tirans and mechagnomes, or another recycled Horde race
  • Not be another reskin of an existing Alliance race, or be one with seniority bias behind it like Broken or Frostborn
  • Have a good variety of class options, preferably including paladin and/or druid, and maybe demon hunter if Blizzard ever budges on that class’s availability
  • Have good racials

That’s my two cents. With any luck, Blizzard will be forced to listen to both factions’ pleas going forward and any future races will be far more desirable than what we got in BfA.

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High

… wait for it…

Elves

High Elves.

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Saberon. I’d love kitty people to go with our wolves.

Besides, Horde has two flavors of tauren and vulpera, both sides have pandas, Alliance are due another furry race to make things even.

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Jinyu.

Tuskarr.

Saberon.

Sethrak.

Arrakoa.

Ethereals.

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

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I think saberon are so obviously a Horde race. But for Alliance furriness, maybe furbolgs? If we can find a tribe that isn’t hostile and figure out their female models, obviously it’d take a lot of work, but it could probably be a believable option in lore and function. Much more than most other requests.

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I agree that the desire for Alliance to get jellyfish-space-vampire-robots or some other similarly odd race is more of a forum thing than it is something Alliance players as a whole actually want. GD can bag on “human variant” races all they want, but the fact is that those are the most popular not just for Alliance but also for Horde, which is more of a “monster faction” than the Alliance ever will be.

That’s not to say that a “less human” Alliance race won’t be a success, but they’ll never come close to chipping the massive lead of elves, humans, and orcs, and overall chances of success are a lot lower. I’d expect the most successful of such races to be about as popular as dwarves at best, with the flops doing as well as mechagnomes or worse.

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arrakoa - though they’d probably need a bit of a redesign.

sethrak - hell, they could be horde for all I care, I just think they’re a really cool race.

botani - I love plant races. I know that they were straight up villains in WoD, but perhaps they could do something along the lines of once they came to azeroth they connected to the emerald dream and interacted with the wildgods there making them more tranquil or at least less “turn the whole world into a hivemind”

vrykul - probably the most requested race, aside from high elves. More requested than ogres even.

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Do botani technically have a “native” shape, with transforming other humanoid races being their means of reproduction? Not that they couldn’t work, but they’d share a problem with Forsaken in that only a single possible variant would be playable (e.g. we know there’s undead gnomes, dwarves, etc but we only get undead humans).

A plant could be neat though, I could see them introducing something that’s like the Botani but more suited to being playable (fewer protrusions on the model and more streamlined shape to reduce clipping, no Borg-like backstory complicating things, etc).

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Not going to happen. Horde-race, was even teased as one during the Mag’har recruitment scenario.

Arrakoa
Furbolgs
Jinyu
Sethrak
Tuskarr

Speaking of, High Elves became a thing because the developers insulted 45% of the community back then by giving them a compromise race. Was just not a good plan.

Should be rolled into the Kul Tiran at the moment. Another human race would be the end for the Alliance in diversity. Just give the Kul Tiran three body types (muscular, thin, massive) and they will fit the bill.

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Idk about the Alliance but I want Horde to have Murlocs and Nagas. Alliance? You can have another variation of goats. Like purple colored ones with pink stripes or zebra heads. Thinks Yeah, sounds good to me.

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I think the Alliance might get a cute Cat Race one day. Before we ever heard about Vulpera, we were sold the Vulpine Familiar, and now we’ve been sold the Sunwarmed Furline, with it’s adorable face.

So maybe something like this?

( Concept artist Tahra art.)

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Well…

I want furbolg for the Alliance. I even made a thread for it.

Scroll through far enough to see the model section and tell me you wouldn’t want to play something like that.

EDIT: Eh I’ll include a picture of one of the mockups here.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906675648829984808/937099786958561360/FNcNsDc.png
By Lancelot

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This sounds like a great idea, actually.

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Since I’m a collector, any of them as I’d need to get the heritage stuff :slight_smile:

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Agreed.

I think the notion that lots of people are going to play fish-men or whatever is way off base.

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Ethereals would be a cool Alliance race, and Blizzard has kind of set them up to be one considering Void elves have a faction of Ethereals working with them.

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  • San’layn
  • High Elves
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Alliance for the most part are dull safe non sharp cookie cutter types. No matter what they get or you play the fact remains you stand beside NPC leaders of gutless, no back bone what so ever leaders.

The best leader alliance had (in wow’s life time at least) was varian wrynn and even he got gutted by his sons “DADDY peace please hugs a wrathion life sized doll” or Jania’s flipping back and forth to hug horde kill horde hug horde kill horde…Nooo hug horde! And then of course they killed him off.

tyrande had a spark of a chance to be a strong, bad *** night elf leader but I am 90% sure she will forgive the person who killed almost her whole race and burned her home down because that is just the cool thing to do.

So to answer your question: No race will stand up to what alliance would really want, and even as they pummel the horde edge lords into the dirt: they are still edge lords. alliance will always be about peace, flowers, trade routes and hugging each other - No matter what leader sits upon the throne or race / racial leader you get.

Most people who say they want ogres are obviously just lying. They think that other people think you’re cool if you say you want an ugly new playable race, or if you pretend that mechagnomes are something worth envying and not just an abomination. People should admit they believe we need more attractive elves in the game, or more furry races.

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Yeah, if Alliance players want yet another reskin of Blood Elves… more power to them. lol

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