That isn’t true. We have great aoe sustained healing. Hence why we do so good at Kurog/razz. And you can blanket up to 8-9people in renewing mists. Sometimes in raid you’ll get 15 renewing mists out at 1 time. Renewing Mist is not weak. Its actually quite strong.
We have pretty good damage. I think only Rdruid / Pvoker can do damage /healing like us. Even then, most Rdruids don’t touch 20k overall. Damage is only good if you can keep your group alive while doing it. To add on further, we also have a kick(interrupt) which most Rdruid don’t have.
That was the case for all healers who are not Pvoker / Rdruid. However, after the nerfs / buffs we are in a much better spot. All healers are looking better now. Rdruid is also getting synergy interactions in their tree broken next patch. Which we all knew was coming if you played beta.
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And? So the button has a downside that doesn’t make his point any less true.
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MWs are S tier in RBGs. Give them a try, they’re a lot of fun and you’ll always get invited.
It’s community bias. Ppl blindly following what some stupid streamer says. MW is fully capable of healing keys into the 20s.
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the human body is fully capable of pulling a semi with their teeth, doesnt mean people will want to do that kind of work vs getting in and driving.
Truth is it’s just more fun for the monk community to complain about MW than to say positive things about it, so that’s what they do
Accidentally posted on wrong toon.
I was honestly shocked by all of the monk changes that they are making so I decided to come back.
The changes they made lately I think will make MW pretty good actually
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I was going to say, I do play on two healer classes and the changes they have made lately fixed many of the issues that were bothering me on my monk previously. It’s still not perfect but it’s not nearly as bad some of these folks that come on here posting that they can’t get over 1700 or whatever make it out to be.
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Yea the fact that they are TRYING is the only reason I came back, and I’m thankful we’re getting so much attention.
People want an entirely melee healer out of monk but it will never be that. Blizzards wants a “weaving” style (and me too personally) which is why things like Sheiluns still have a cast time. However, they are still iterating and nice enough to provide a cast time reduction talent in upcoming build.
I would like to see melee changes focused on adding a dimension of “timing choice”. As right now you simply just do your rotation as fast as possible to heal and there is little to no choice of when you use your melee abilities, you just spam them. To use Sheiluns as an example, you can sit on it til the right time and still benefit from it. I think they need some sort of melee mechanic like that which adds an element of choice to the melee rotation and we would see MW in a great place mechanically and play style
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For me it feels like MW does a lot of what other healers do, I just have to do more to do it.
I still haven’t forgiven Blizzard for taking away being able to move and cast Soothing Mist.
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No wonder you couldn’t even break 1700 io on MW if that is how you approached MW healing rofl.
YOU made it harder on yourself. It was you who couldn’t learn how to start or drive the truck, or maintain it, then complains when it breaks down. Skill issue. Get good.
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You are trying really really hard to have an issue with me, its pretty cringe, you might want to see to that. Also, you didnt even understand the analogy.
Most of what you do here is disparaging people for playing monk rather then actively contributing to the spec discussion, so it’s not hard to have an issue with you.
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MW monk needs some serious love. The play style is messy at best. They don’t have BL or BR, They don’t have a damage reduction cooldown, they have an interrupt now but so do most other healers.
I loved my monk… Was my fav class from MoP to Legion I never felt as at one with a healer until I played MW monk it just felt so natural to me! I had played a druid for years before but monk was always the best!
Meh i really hope they just fix it and make it good to play again and i would go back to my monk in a heartbeat! I tried to gear my monk up for DF and just get declined for groups so figured i would not bother.
Can we get some expansion on this point? It’d honestly be useful to hear what people feel is messy about the play style.
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Well i speak only for myself here not others this is just my opinion but I liked mist weavers when they were ranged healers basically MoP/WoD/Legion style, I liked being able to move with casting soothing mists and I personally felt like a monk was a mix between a druid and a paladin (back then) now I feel like i am forced to play melee and if I play ranged I don’t do well enough if that makes sense.
I am not so sure about the melee spec because i don’t like it at all but the range spec is not good and they lack the toolkit.
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I’d argue that the caster build right now is in a good spot. Still could use a little improvement but it feels a lot better than it has in years. The latest buffs have really helped flesh it out.
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Okay, so I was hoping for a bit more on this.
Do you feel like the ranged has too much single target focus? Too much aoe? Is it hard to maintain ReM? Do you not feel like ReM spread is good enough for ranged play?
Messy to me means that there are parts of the kit that either are not working or need QoL changes.
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I should look into the new changes to be fair i haven’t looked at them at all