Your inability to understand that first of all, they will never ban the use of all addons in this game, and second of all, the ramifications of that if you really think they would (the death of the game) is somewhat troubling, but, you fit right in here on this forum.
Apparently not to the people who want transmog, class balance, better spawn rates on some resources, achievements / rewards tied with BfA, unarmored mounts, guild banks, AoE looting, instant mail, etcâŚ
vanilla addon experience
For the credibility of the classic community, I cannot believe that this was ever THE point of getting classic.
For the credibility of the classic community, I cannot believe that this was ever THE point of getting classic.
no but it was part of the overall experience.
Until Blizzard says otherwise my interpretation focuses on the last paragraph which seems to indicate specifically what they felt was over the line in ClassicLFG which states:
Itâs difficult to articulate a clear-cut rule for exactly when an add-on crosses the line. However, when an add-on goes beyond presenting information or providing aesthetic customization, and attempts to create an interconnected social network that relies on other players also using that same add-on, we are likely to scrutinize it particularly closely.
Since the problem seems to be, âan interconnected social network that relies on other players also using that same add-on,â it would seem they would focus on breaking the addon to addon communication or possibly limit it to guilds/raid/party as someone in another thread mentioned was how the addon communication channels originally were (not sure if thatâs accurate).
The chat parsing and posting part would seem to fall under âpresenting information or providing aesthetic customization.â
Limiting addon to addon communication to only party/raid/guild members or breaking it entirely would seem like it would break a lot of other random addons but I donât see how they could target the âinterconnected social network that relies on other players using that same add-onâ in any other way.
Wow the amount of stupidity, how much can these forums take. Add ons were in the beta version of this original release and all throughout itâs game life cycle. The OP question is a valid one as there are many addons that use similar api calls in a different way and specifically for RP as they have said numerous times. Seriously guys this game is on itâs last leg here. If it werent for classic and the things we all individually and collectively hope to get out of it is, this game would seriously be 1 step from death. This launch is the only thing propping this game up, can we stop being so divisive about it.
the death of the game
Now this is really sad and gives a good idea about what you think of WoW Classic in itself.
The addon community will die, I give you that, but the classic community will thrive on the back of their demise.
The addon community will die
Right, so 90% of the people who play this game. Ah, delusions.
Iz feermungur mon.
no but it was part of the overall experience.
I never heard someone dream back bout Vanilla and melt in nostalgia when talking about all the addons he used? When people talked about their experience and what they liked it was usually something very different. But well, maybe thats just me and my experience, I admit that.
90% of the people who play this game
Where do you get this number and prove that this amount of people would quit if addons where disabled? I would not be able to tell how many people would be that delusional to quit Classic or Vanilla because the loss of Addons but Iâd like to learn ))
honestly the addons i remember most were damage meters (i believe it was actually called that) and omen.
there were others that i had that i dont remember as much but they added to the experience in ways i am sure affected the way i played.
they were part of the fabric of vanilla for alot of people.
to wish for the death of addons is to wish for the death of the game itself.
Allow me to help clarify what you mean.
The LFG Classic Tool, as is, has very little âautomationâ to it and even less automation that could explicitly be cited as a problem in itâs current state. Too my knowledge, it has a partially automated custom channel text message that will be posted automagically every now and then (AKA LF2M WC, need Tank), it automatically parses text in the chatbox which is explicitly never been a problem in the history of WoW, and âautomaticallyâ shares data with other users of the addon when they are LFG so that they are easier to show up in the player list.
Now the problem with Blizzard saying âOh weâre going to bust this up real goodâ is that all of the above barring maybe the semi-auto chat messaging is non-factor non-issue tier stuff that effects are great many other addons. For example, if you break chat parsing theyâll be destroying god knows how many other addons, the entire RP community, ect. If they break the functionality of addons sharing data with other users, theyâd be breaking a whole different host of addons such as healing addons that show outgoing heals from other members of raids ect.
Breaking either of the two above will effectively be changing Vanilla WoW and destroying a great many addons many people will be using from RP to raiding. The irony here is that the NOCHANGES people demanding for changes is not lost on me since their demanding demeanor might end up with them shooting themselves in the foot here.
The third change they could potentially make is the semi-automatic chat messaging in channels (like General) but then there would really be no reason for the uproar over this at all.
Iâm assuming what you desire is a clarification, from Blizzard, on what exactly they intend to break, because busting the way this addon currently works (instead of just banning it, no idea howâd you enforce a ban like that but whatever) has the potential to demolish a great many other addons.
And because I want to get my piece in for myself, shame on you community for getting suckered into that shill retail streamer thatâs tricked you into an uproar into literally making changes to Classicâs Vanilla WoW formula. Bunch of poser nochanges demanding changes, rustles me up real good.
People are hilarious âthe spirit of classicâ then uses discord for LFG quest mods to tell them where to go instead of interacting with others in chat to figure things out etc etc.
Whoa. Got some mental giants attacking mom. All she did was ask a simple question that a lot of us want to know the answer to.
They must be Asmonâs sheep.
Yo Asmon get these guys in line or momâs using the belt.
to wish for the death of addons is to wish for the death of the game itself.
Thats just not true. When you logged in the Test Servers and talked to people who came back, what was your impression. That they were kind of okay but wished they had some addons or that they said something along the lines: âits good to be backâ or âcrazy, first time in years someone is whispering more than a few wordsâ. Letâs be honest to ourselfs, addons are QoL and many we can get used to. But they do not define the Vanilla/Classic experience. If they would, this would be very sad and as a dev who brought classic back I would be more than surprised by hearing that.
Anyway, I leave it at that as its not going anywhere and I dont want to be the one pushing Blizz to turn them off )) be wary as its also âyouâ who will push them too with all the complications and concerns.
in the first stress test? naw i just wanted to play.
every other stress test? ya i wanted addons.
honestly it doesnt have to be either/or.
Sorry but I donât think they owe you a technical description⌠Back in the day there was an add-on called wow glider that basically let you fly around at high speeds and would bot for you. They broke the add-on and banned people using it because it was against TOS.
Itâs their prerogative what they donât want to allow.
Iâm actually surprized to see this from you Eloraell, your a legend on these forums for your posts, but im sorry to say this one seems off target.
It was fairly clear from the blue post that blizzard isnât sure what theyre going to do exactly just yet, they are being mindful of changes effecting other addons, and overall have they have a design philosophy they are trying to adhere to.
Iâm confident that by the time they actually write in the coding changes, they will have the most minimal impact possible, but asking for info about coding they likely havenât written yet ??..i just fail to see what youâre expecting outside of furthering the forum fires.
I genuinely hope ivâe misunderstood your post, and if so i apologize, but yeahâŚ
the most minimal impact possible
Meaning disabling any avenue that an LFG add-on could use to automatically communicate which groups are available within a network.
There is automatic communication that Elo wants to keep, like being able to inspect someone and see their character bio.