What happened to Tirisfal?

So more head canon?

Did you?

    Creative development didn’t used to be under the same umbrellas as cinematics. It was its own entity doing books and comics. Cinematics was doing its thing over here. And when we brought them all together kind of under one roof

Of which said department he is the head of.

This is correct.

The rest of your post is still not how Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy works.

Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy requires a false conclusion based on a vague large sets of data where patterns do not actually exist. An example of this is any internet personality test, where the results are so vague that they could apply to anyone, and a person ignores what is dissimilar to them from the results and instead focuses on what does apply to them, and thus falsely concluding that the personality result completely applied to them.

Your post does not rely on a false conclusion, as it is by definition a true conclusion. The dissimilarities are that those examples you are picking do not fit the conclusion as defined, because they are not part of it.

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In this scenario you have five points of data and have elected to only observe one as absolute.

This is, once again, not how Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy works. Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy depends on having large sets of result data, and ignoring the undesired result data. In this case, it would be having a large set of results on what causes Night Elves eyes to go black (if we had a statement that said “Night Elves eyes turn black when they are fighting for Elune, or for the Night Elf People, or for Kalimdor, or for the Alliance, or for Azeroth”) and ignoring the sets that do not fit the conclusion (“Elune makes Night Elves eyes black, therefore Night Elves eyes turn black when they are fighting for Elune, or for the Night Elf People, or for Kalimdor, or for the Alliance, or for Azeroth”). Your five points of data do not fit into how Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy works.

“Large” is nebulous, Amadis. For this scenario, we only have five points of data. You have chosen your one shot and base all arguments around it. You’ve built your argument upon it and answer your argument with it. Nevermind that…

Terran Gregory and Steve Danuser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhpGvgXyi-U&t=38m40s :

And we thought, well, you know, that's a great moment. We have this transformation of Tyrande, that energy that she's calling upon, this dark side of Elune, how that infuses the other Night Elves in the warfront, hey, why not give that, as an option, to players. Allow them to tap into that power as well.
Terran Gregory: Character customization, yes.
Steve Danuser: Character customization.
Terran Gregory: And a lot of people were interested online in how exactly the players came to have the black eyes.
Steve Danuser: It is.
Terran Gregory: The darkened eyes.
Steve Danuser: Yes, the darkened eyes. And I think that speaks to the power of that ritual. This ancient ritual that Tyrande taps into - again, sorry, spoilers, but - Tyrande taps into that ritual, that calling upon- it's not even calling upon, she's demanding, she's like, "Give me this power. You turned your back on us, as those 'so-and-so's' took our home from us. Now you owe us. Give me this power." And that so infused her that it could change those Elves. So we wanted to give players that opportunity, to say, "You know what, I'm part of that, too. I stand with Tyrande," and show that off in their characters.
Terran Gregory: And if you'll notice at the warfront, all the NPCs that are Night Elves actually have the darkened eyes. So there's definitely a sense that, in proximity, fighting on behalf of the darkened element of Elune under the darkened moon, that's what happens. And whether or not the player has customized themselves, that of course is player choice, but **I think** in the story sense that any Night Elf that's fighting on behalf of Elune in that confrontation their eyes would be darkening.

Gregory states he thinks that’s how it works. He doesn’t state it with any authority that “This is how it works.”

Normally I’d let this fly, but we have Shandris’s quote:
Shandris: You are dearest to my heart, Tyrande. I beg you, let go of the Black Moon’s rage and embrace the mother’s light once again. I could not bear to lose you to darkness.

Tyrande’s quote:
Tyrande: Know this. My hunger for vengeance will not be sated so long as Sylvanas Windrunner remains free–and until I know why Elune abandoned her children.

The fact that neither Furion nor Shandris have black eyes.
That neither of them have been overtly vengeful this entire time. Even when fighting Lorash, Furion was trying to talk him down.

Everything we’ve been given in the game suggests that the black eyes are a reflection of feeding on anger/wrath/what have you – not fighting on behalf of the Goddess.

That is indeed the very idea of Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

The darkness of the Black Moon is as much of Elune as the moonlight is.

Both have been focused on ending the war, yes, rather than fighting more. Which still fits the statement of them not fighting on behalf of Elune. As you showed, they just don’t want to fight any more, at all, and just want peace for their people again.

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Elune wants her people safe. Furion and Shandris both achieve that goal. Why are they not fighting on behalf of Elune? Why is Tyrande when she plainly fights for the fallen?

You yourself covered it:

    I will keep hunting the enemy until the war is won, Dreadmoore.

Until the war is won, and then no more, as she proves now.

Not seeing how that isn’t what Elune would want?

Elune still wants revenge, and is still after Sylvanas.

Do you have a citation on that?

You yourself also provided it:

That doesn’t state what Elune wants, Amadis. That just states the Black Moon is angry. Furthermore, reading into the Black Moon, it seems like it’s always angry.

    Tyrande Whisperwind says: Elune! Make me the instrument of your vengeance!

That’s certainly what Tyrande wants. But we know vengeance wasn’t high up on Elune’s meter because Tyrande had to give her an ultimatum to get the power up.

Doesn’t work for most people:

    Sira Moonwarden says: She intends to invoke the ancient rites…
    Maiev Shadowsong says: The ritual will kill her! We depart for Darkshore immediately.

    Maiev Shadowsong says: In a sacred ritual, the strongest among them became her avatar–the Night Warrior. Our victory was swift.
    Maiev Shadowsong says: None who have attempted the ritual since then have survived. Elune’s raw power tears them apart.

Even in the new quest Maiev still disagrees because it could have killed Tyrande:

    And, while I disagree with her methods, we would not have succeeded without Tyrande as well.

    Differences aside, she is our leader–and an incarnation of the Night Warrior herself.

All of Tyrande’s power comes from Elune herself. I feel like Elune would be a good judge of if Tyrande could survive it or not.

I guess Elune didn’t like the people that died trying the ritual very much.

I don’t know how you two have the patience to lawyer about this for so long.

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i´m neither…i´m a little bit suprised…but they discus over 3 hours about the same topic…and bring the same sources ever and every time again :smiley:

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Then I guess you shouldnt mind the loss of Undercity at all!

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