I don’t care about the vendors, Zerde.
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I’ve said it before but just rebuild and resettle everything. New world tree with new night elf capital and smaller settlements, Undercity, Brill, Gilneas, Gnomeregan, Dalaran back in the crater, Southshore, old Kargath, Okri’lon Hold, Nethergarde Keep, Darkshire, Camp Taurajo, Menethil Harbor, Stonemaul Village, Theramore, Auberdine, Quel’Lithien Lodge, Lor’danel, Freewind Post, Hillsbrad Fields, Drakgor Encampment, Dunwald Ruins, old Feathermoon Stronghold. All of it!
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Yeah because nameless npc = capital city…
Its may be alot to ask.
Personalty i would be ok with:
Horde: Undercity/tirisfal, the goblin, a proper city for the darkspear and updating Sylvermoon.
Alliance: New world tree, Gilneas, updating the Exodar and instead of Gnomeran i would make mechagon dungeon as a proper city for both gnome since they now have the same kind( i found machagon way more interesting than gnomeran as a city.
Blizzard has stated* for years they want to remove all cities except for Stormwind and Orgrimmar.
This smacks of them starting on that plan. The new World of Warcraft dev team has forgotten** that the most important character in Warcraft is the world itself.
*(allegedly. I’ve never read the quote myself but people have talked about it on various forums and reddit)
**(or perhaps was too arrogant to learn in the first place)
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Except neither Darnassus or the Undercity were removed. They’re both still in game right now.
They don’t have to keep them updated now.
Oddly enough, any update that applies to shared models still applies to Darnassus and Undercity. For example, the arboreal Ancients got model updates with the Darkshore Warfront, and they updated the Ancients in Darnassus at the same time.
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I was actually referring to guard levels, city boss levels and damage math, possibly vendors such as the heirloom vendors.
Guards and city boss levels will all still scale automatically. New vendor NPCs are not likely to be added, no.
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You don’t think they have to edit them every expansion to set the new levels and test the damage they perform?
Why is that?
Heirloom vendors get updated every couple expansions, don’t they?
Same reason the Ancients in Darnassus were updated. It’s just shared code Blizzard runs on all similar sets. They’re not updating each NPC manually.
They do. Visit them once an expansion. If they didn’t do that no one would ever visit them ever again.
I love the new models for ancients of war and ancients of lore. But I miss the old ancient protector models. I wish the new ones had more foliage so they would look more like the originals. Also it’s weird that they finally made an ancient of wind model but didn’t use it.
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Honestly, some of those npc are just as meaningful to us as anyone else. Do you think I enjoyed killing Althea Ebonlocke or seeing Marcus Redpath turned into a Forsaken? Some of those NPC were characters we interacted with more than several faction leaders back in the day.
I am also tired of hearing people say “x place, npc, or stuff” is not as important/or that we shouldn’t feel sad about losing it. We liked those places, and now lorewise/gamewise they are gone!
Well congrats, I dont care about you losing Undercity. See how fun that is?
Ultimately, if what happen to the Alliance got flipped around and happened to the Horde, you would be complaining about it. Hell, Taurajo still comes up every now and then!
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??? I was correcting you.
These two are not the same thing. Why would you equate them to being the same thing?
This also isn’t the same thing. Taurajo is brought up because the Horde was punished for defending sovereign horde territory from invaders. Baine is as worthless as Elune.
Are you really trying to say that those npc value as much as a capital city???
Ok than let make a deal. The horde get Undercity back and the alliance get those npc back but not Teldrassil… It should be ok for you since those npc value as much as Undercity…
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No, he is saying the loss of Teldrassil and its npcs matter, regardless of what some one who didn’t care about them thinks. They matter as much as Undercity and its vendors. Some people think because Teldrassil was relatively new in the lore, and because the only characters lost there were “vendors”, that it doesn’t matter as much as losing Undercity. Zerde is saying they’re wrong, because plenty of people who like night elves have just as many attachments to Teldrassil and even its vendors/trainers as people who like forsaken have had to Undercity.
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Because those things are generally lost at the same time. Especially for the Alliance side.
Honestly, i wouldnt mind, if every dead Alliance character got revived(and not in a creepy forsaken/death knight way). Mostly because as shown by Stormwind you can rebuild, or as shown by Theramore you can make a city somewhere else. Hell, for the price of giving back Undercity back to the Horde and rezzing every night elf and Alliance killed by Sylvanas and Horde, even minus Tedrassil sound like an awesome deal!
I dont want to get into too long of an argument over it but the Alliance attacking has always only ever been a part of the reason. To the majority of the player base it is the simple fact the Horde lost something to the Alliance which really riles them.
Thank you.
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I wish we could lose a bunch of vendors in a city no one goes to instead of our actual hero characters.
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Wouldn’t be a good move in my opinion, the Forsaken deserve their own leadership, the two can act as advisors and healers. But as leaders of a horde race? Gnaaah, doesn’t quite fit.