Its pretty easy to miss when the story has been meek and mild. Almost as if it somewhat proves my point hmm?
It was darker and more serious than it is today. That’s the point.
The OP didn’t say that WoW used to be a horror game.
To say that WoW has never been dark or gritty during this conversation is like saying it has always been soft and fluffy. This statement is wrong, as I have shown with my examples.
No. But neither did the story’s protagonists, so it doesn’t matter.
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I dunno about edgy, but he is still one of the most iconic characters in all of Warcraft. So… Blizzard must have done something right with him, even if it was 20ish years ago now.
Then say “darker and more serious than it is today” instead of “dark and gritty”. I don’t care if you can’t communicate effectively, WoW has never been a “gritty” game.
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“Gritty dark fantasy” has been traded for “Feel-good come-together wholesomeness” across the board.
I’ll admit I love me some feel-good come-together wholesomeness. Just not in my “Warcraft” exactly.
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Rightio frens, you’ve been a lot of fun this morning and made the last few hours of my shift worthwhile and fun. Time to pack up and head home.
Hope you all have a lovely day 
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I thought you were referring to something that happened in Darkshore during the prepatch.
Zombies are super dark? The game told me the Scourge is super evil and dark but most of that is off screen it happened.
The closest to that is like the what if visions. Otherwise they are just bigger monsters.
I would say are more nihilistic than grimdark, they had something of bite in the WC3 cinematic with the infernal but after that?
A bit grimdark yeah, stuff was rough when they started out but it was always offset with goofy skulls.
Like barely touching on dark, like going to lavender town in pokemon and saying ‘oh wow a graveyard, a ghost!’
Gilneas starts Grimdark then drops that mask 5 mins after you shape shift turning into a goofy roadtrip of an entire nation that fights back an army with a few swordsman and muskets.
There we go, only really took till BFA
Huh? Wouldn’t call that grimdark.
Yeah back at it like Drustvar, getting back to a tasting it.
I don’t recall that story.
Yeah tbh, a lot of the “edginess” WoW had, was much of me simply being younger as well. I enjoyed it more simply because I was a kid.
Shadowlands went all-out on that, and look how turned-off it made people lol.
You had a zone that was a literal giant living corpse (Maldraxxus), Arthas being thrown into mega-hell, and Torghast as a whole.
It’s was overly edgy, imo. To the point where it was just kinda dumb.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1fhs30m/i_nominate_gothic_trashcan_man_for_the_dumbest/
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For its purpose it has never been this.
We just have a lot of people that can’t help but import their suicidal empathy into a video game. I’d love it it Blizz’s devs allowed this to play out realistically. Which would mean one side taking advantage of this brief ceasefire.
It would be pretty epic if the Horde let the Alliance drop their guard only to burn another tree. Which, let’s face it, is exactly what would (and should) happen.
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I think SL was poor execution more than poor concept. The story could have been great, but Blizzard definitely dropped the ball. Visually, it was very impressive, but art is always subjective and therefore divisive.
Idk lol, Jailer dropping Baine to break his knees, while we’re in super hell, instead of just killing him?
Like, lol???
Imagine if you meet Satan and he just like, bends your foot backwards and lets you live?
Same kind of energy lol.
It was just there for shock value. And it didn’t go anywhere, because Baine didn’t do anything lmao.
I mean isn’t Satan’s whole schtick torment? That seems to fit perfectly.
Satan isn’t the type to come and kill the violinist. He’s the type to cripple their bowhand and let them live with it.
Yeah, but he’s also giving us hope by not outright ending us.
In fact, the entire reason his plan failed, is because he didn’t stop us then and there.
His own stupidity/hubris, like any other cardboard villain.
Raszegeth did a better job, for what short time she was around- she freed her brethren and died, but not before starting this whole thing we’re currently playing through now, with Xal’atath.
Iridikron will show up in the future.
deep strained inhale Just let the Horde destroy one more city Blizzard, just one more, we promise to stop after that.
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We do not promise that.
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Do the puppet master questline.
You talk about DARK. I think there was a criminal minds episode close to it.
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And they’re even putting their best effort into changing that, as well.
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Good, Warhammer sucks.
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