What happened to Horde on MG?

Whatever helps you sleep at night, friendo.

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Oh joy… personal drama… takes out Yorik’s skull and practices his Hamlet

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Isn’t there a toy in game that lets us do this? Atleast for DHs?

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Yeah, I was kinda disappointed it’s just DHs… I’d absolutely use it. I do however have an insta port to Black Temple.

I mean, they’re here. Understandably, they’re not the easiest to find (given I had to go find some even older posts) but all of these events have taken place, are going to be taking place, or Im sure will be put back on. So they’re around relatively available.

On a different but similar note about Org, I know the Tail isn’t the most inviting place but its the assumed/expected place for walk up Horde RP. I know it’s boring as sin to stand there all day by yourself with no one else around, but existing there is the only way to bring folks there. Its a perfect time to queue up for Mythics, solo shuffles, do your homework, watch a movie, etc.

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Everytime people ask in horde trade chat if moon guard is a good server for horde everyone tells them to goto Wyrmrest Accord. It’s hard for horde to be good or grow when we are actively sending people to other places. instead of telling them to stay and actually building a community on horde side.

Then we get people asking what happened to horde on moonguard.

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Drama aside…

A lot of thoughts that I’ll try to put together coherently.

People keep posting regularly on these forums about how Moon Guard-Horde has “died”. I understand why—that’s been the common perception for years now, but it’s far from accurate.

Nuance needs to be considered.

The truth is that Moon Guard-Horde’s focus shifted over the years from predominantly walk-up/guild leaning RP to basically just guild/community RP; the random walk-up RP part of the equation evaporated and, because that’s the most visual type of RP, the myth thrives. So, a distinction here is important: a certain part—a very visual part—largely died; but not the whole.

Now, that’s not to say that the population hasn’t decreased significantly—it obviously has in favour for WRA-Horde and several other factors I’ll expand on later—but it’s not dead. I see events posted often and I have been in great guilds on that side that have—and still are—actively worked on fostering the community as a whole; such as Undercity Nexus, for example (props to them for their consistent work over the years).

Most of my time in WoW from ‘08 through to about ‘16 was spent role-playing between MG-Alliance and MG-Horde; and I was on almost every day, leading RP guilds, being an officer in RP guilds, organising RP events and groups, posting in RP and lore forums, walking about for RP, blah, blah, blah. I’m going to dare to say that I generally know a thing or two about that side of the server’s “peak”, so to speak. During that period of time, Silvermoon was the undisputed king of the hotspots Horde-side; it often rivalled the MG-Stormwind of today. You could jump online at anytime and find many people walking through the streets of Silvermoon and role-playing. The role-play guilds? Overwhelmingly blood elf and typically RP-PVP-focused. Dominion of the Sun, The Sunguard, The Dawnfury, Will of Dath’remar, etc… It was all MAINLY blood elf. Now, Silvermoon and the blood elves have barely grown lore-wise and setting-wise, so boredom and disillusion naturally set in, and with that comes MG-Horde’s bulk leaving over time. Most of the people playing back then were also going through their teen years or early 20’s—they were growing up online, in other words. These people naturally left the game—or just the role-play-side of WoW—over time; be it for other games like FF 14, a career, family, etc… All of these factors—plus the failings of certain expansions, Blizzard’s changes as a company, stagnation and unpopularity in the lore the bulk was interest in, etc…—and more led to the significant population decrease we see today.

What was is gone now; and you can’t really re-capture that.

People keep comparing MG-Horde to what it once was, seemingly without knowing what it once was, and then selling the death narrative. Most of—not all, but most of—the people who made it what it once was either changed or left; and many are of a generation that won’t be coming back.

I think we all need to stop comparing MG-Horde to what it was and appreciate what it is now AS WELL AS being solutions-focused and jumping onto the opportunities future expansions like Midnight and The Last Titan—and expansion features like Housing and revamped capitals—present.

Sending people to WRA-Horde each time they talk about MG-Horde isn’t a solution; it’s admitting defeat.

The foundation MG-Horde has now is small, sure, but great—it isn’t dead.

Build on it.

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With guilds now being cross faction neutral, I do maintain a Horde alt for recruiting folks in Horde on MG/Wra if anyone wants to schedule an interview.

This right here makes the most sense. Though you did forget a key part. Some of those who perpetuate the " Only Horde is on WrA" are doing it out of spite, since they would rather not see a growth on Horde side.

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I want to give you a hug sir.

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Necromar thank you. I just had heard, being a once long-time RP’er on Horde MG specifically through those more pristine years line yourself, that someone, some big thing went down, that made people not want to associate themselves on MG with horde anymore or trust Horde MG guilds or such.

Silly assumptions or suspicions I know, but I didn’t have much to go on.

Kudos to you sir for your explanation, as the thorough answer gave way to me understanding and having insight.

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