More variety would definitely be nice. They are already in the system. Just have to deploy them.
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The biggest things I get people want from delves is āeverything. so much of everything that nothing else mattersā
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Iād like to see them added to zones from other expansions.
Opens up all kinds of possibilities in terms of
- stories (even from Azerothās past if added to the Caverns of Time)
- traps/gimmicks
- enemies
- aesthetics of the delves
- aesthetics of the cosmetic rewards (gear, mounts, pets, toys, etcā¦)
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Delves are already alone and donāt touch M+ or raiding. Itās a path, just like M+ is to raiding.
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Delves. Good ol Delves.
I want gear to be isolated between game modes so I can M+ and not give two poops about Delves. Doing my 8 Delves is boring as heck solo.
You always could.
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Why? Just increase the rewards and more would do them with joy in their hearts.
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you alrady can?
Delve gear only goes to Champion. (with only single heroic in your vault weekly)
If you donāt want to do delves, you can go do the standard progression.
Dungeons ā Heroics ā Mythic.
youāll get the same loot as delves iLVL wise, but in the content more geared for you. You should be doing Reg > Heroics > mythic anyways and not jump straight into mythics.
thereās a cap of Champion gear on Delveās intentionally to prevent it from being required for mythic/raiding content.
the problem is with Delves, for the first two weeks, it was the best means for gear before heroics were launched, so everyone who wanted that instant gratification assumed that it was required doing.
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These things called vault and RNG say otherwise.
Vault rewards for Delves is 616 heroic gear (T8ās)
you have 3 possible slots to open from that.
dungeons are no different. you get the same 3 slots at heroic levels for doing heroics / TW. With higher rewards avaialable to Mythic dungeon runs.
literally no difference in the progression of the vault.
and if those vault choices arenāt enough. thereās also the raid vault progression you could do for 616 heroics or higher.
M+ 7 gives you 3 slots of hero. Delve 8ās gives you 3 slots of hero. Thatās 6 slots to beat RNG.
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Could you not do the same thing with 10 hours of daily key spam? I donāt see the problem.
Yup. the idea you canāt properly gear up with delves is wrong.
Iāve managed to get 4 alts to 610 as a completely casual player. Not touching a single heroic dungeon ro raid this expansion purely from Delves, world loot and the Vault.
full set pieces were done by week 4.
Gearing up has never had more paths than it does today in WoW. Anbd that is a good thing.
RNG might play some part, but when you combine in that you can easily plan your vault levels, and the catalyst, Blizz gave tones of options for gear.
Also managed full sets of PvP gear doing nothing but world quests in PvP mode on two characters.
Itās never, EVER been easier to gear in this game than this expansion.
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Iād like at least 1 procedurally generated delve.
Having the same map and 3/4 stories every time kinda burns you out on the long run, same as dungeons.
As much as people hate it, Torghast was the by far best solo content in WoW, botched by the terrible reward system associated with it.
Delves are merely fine, the companion would have fit a lot better in Torghast too.
The ability to leave the computer, eat snacks, not worry about people leaving, take as much time as I want, etcā¦
They are just awesome.
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I think thatās the M+ talking while wearing a Delve mask.
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Nah.
Definitely non M+ers asking for mythic raid track gear, gilded, etc.
And if it messes up other content like M+, screw em. Because everyone who does m+ is a bad person.
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I find this to be a small minority of delvers on the forums, which is already a tiny minority of players.
Most delvers seem pretty content though there are obviously some exceptions.
Iām fine with them as they are. If they are left alone thatās enough for me.
But Iāve been called a āsimp for delvesā more than once for saying just that much so I can understand the feeling from the other side of the aisle on that as well.
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Thatās kind of what I was hoping Delves were. A Torghast style romp and smash, with some crazy random powers, changing cariables etc.
But with the proper progression reward system.
Take the loot mechanisms and system of delves, put them in Torghast (and maybe make Torghast a little lessā¦ dreary :p) and itās a winner.
Delveās feelā¦ neutered. the special abilities you get are kind of weak and often donāt provide value at all (A HP Boost that disapears as soon as you drop below 66% health is one of the most asanine design choices by a blizz dev). or a fire shield that lasts 10 seconds before exploding and hitting nobody.
bring back silly nonsense powers. Iāve done hundreds of T8s now and still feel like Iām smacking bullet sponges around. 900+ DPS and it still feels like a boring slog at atimes.
give me silly, over the top power ups that can spawn randomly.
change up the spawns of enemies. make it more dynamic and engaging.
Delveās are good. But it feels like they just half arsed so much of this expansion and released it as āgood enoughā without actually pushing to make it a great experience.
the āfixing the machineā question / room thing is another example of an event / activity that feels like itās a bare minimum viable product, and nothing that anyone spent any time thinking about before chucking our way.
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A CoT based delve (or even delves) would be pretty cool for sure.
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