After classic MOP can finally unsub 
yes, which is a classic relaunch
class changes are not the point of the server, that was SODs point and its live now!
no, dual spec is not remotely comparable to class changes
Balance the classes without using any abilities from other expansions. Go
And what would this number be, just curious.
This is a problem of ALL MMOS. People play the best spec/combo always. guilds cleared with these meme specs. You truly just dont enjoy vanilla, but want to change it till you do. We are on SOM 3, and youre still not happy. You will always find something to complain about for changing classes.
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No, I’m done playing your games. I’ve answered all your questions and you haven’t answered mine. I will give you an answer when you stop trolling.
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I gave you reason after reason. You just keep saying, but damage meter not higher than other class = bad.
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And I refuted each of your claims. You have nothing so you’re running in circles. If a healer can bring the same buffs that a DPS can bring and the dps is also doing a fraction of what the meta specs are doing damage wise, why would you ever bring them. For damage low damage does = bad when you don’t make up for that weakness elsewhere.
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There’s your problem. How about you be the difference and take all the meme specs into raid with you?
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I dont see you advocating for actual tank specs to be in the game. I dont see you advocating for resto druids to be stronger? You are literally picking certain specs and trying to justify why they should be balanced. How about this. Why does each raid need 1 of every spec?? So it checks the box on your piece of paper of variety?
Make a spot for them? you arent speed running, you arent pushing world first. you are the problem you are advocating against.
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I am all things like paladins getting a taunt, resto druids being stronger, etc when did I ever say I wasn’t?
Why do they need this? Seriously why do all raids need 1 of every spec in raid
Yeah unless you’re going for top parses or top speed clear u can take whatever you want. It’s a non issue in most casual guilds. Non casual players aren’t playing a ret paladin, they are healing like it was meant o originally be
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You are clueless. i dont think you have any idea what is being talked about right now.
Actually, I think you’re the clueless one in truth. You’re being completely disingenuous and that’s fine. You can keep living in your fantasy world but there is a reason why meme specs are called meme specs and are looked down upon.
Exactly because class balance was awful in vanilla which is why all the hybrids got major revamps for their meme specs going into TBC.
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So youre not going to answer why each raid needs 1 of every spec in raid?
Because you denied them from your guild.
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TBC was actually much worse in comparison of raid comp. where do you start with tbc. Rotating groups for lust, all groups need a leatherworker for drums. each group needs a shaman for totems.
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Correct. I’m not disagreeing that class balance was bad. I’m saying unless you going to top parsing/speed clearing a guild can take whatever classes they want and be fine
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No because they do a fraction of the dps balanced specs do. Not gonna argue with you anymore, we can agree to disagree.