Yup, we got our 15yr old Classic back but…we don’t have the same people playing it back then hence the Toxic take over of younger generations
I’d probably put more time into my classic profiles if I knew for sure the game would never progress past the basic game.
Eh. Thats a pretty horrible assumption. I highly doubt Activision Blizzard woukd risk the company going under for a fake record on one of thier less successful games. Again the numbers are there, go through the books man.
I don’t think you understand: they aren’t risking anything by saying what they said…it’s common practice to say positive things about the company but not share the numbers. They literally just did it…
Not for all of us i wouldn’t touch Classic if they even payed me plus i love BFA anyways.
If those numbers arent backed up in their books that are open to the public they do. I understand how it works. Making claims without your books matching is misleading the share holders and is fruad.
Got it, so retail endgame is more complex. Both PvE mechanics are significantly harder in retail. Agreed.
Why would you attack yourself like that after admitting retail is more difficult? The only thing harder about Classic is finding the time to play it and how long the tedious leveling takes…
But they aren’t required to make their sub numbers public…
Again, if youre THAT concerned that a company would commit fraud over sub growth rates, which is a horribly stupid thing to do. Go into their financial statements. Candy crush out performs all of blizzrads games by miles. WoW is insignificant. They wouldnt risk committing fraud for something so small and petty.
Again, I don’t think you understand what fraud is. Nothing about what they did was fraud.
Them:
Me:
Literally no one:
You: BLIZZARD IS COMMITTING FRAUD!
Like, what?
Don’t waste your time trolling me with strawmen, dude. Get a job that takes up more of your time, so you aren’t stroking your own ego with these posts.
Both pve mechanics? What does that even mean? Or did you mean “both instanced and non instanced retail PVE are harder”? Because leveling is retail is braindead easy, dude. There’s nothing hard about it.
Not that I’m saying classic is hard, it isn’t. But, somehow, even with the bugs and slow grinding and inconvenient travel… I enjoy it more. Retail has far more bells and whistles, but, they don’t appeal to me.
If I want a “hard” game - I’ll play my tier 10 DD’s in WoWS, or my LT’s in WoT. WoW? WoW is something I play literally waiting for paint to dry (I’m an artist) - nothing about either version is particularly hard, except Mythic, I guess. Playing neither game version makes you hardcore.
Seriously, if you plan on trying the same game with me as Jalen, you really need to step things up. Mind you, I don’t expect much from anybody named YoloX.
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Im not the one saying theyre committing fraud you are. “Companies make claims like this to boost share holder value.” They do if it’s true. I think youre confused man. I like talking to you man. We have had a good back and forth in other forum topics. In this particular instance youre trolling too hard, and dont know what youre talking about.
Anyone else here for the Jalen-yolodemon argument? its pretty entertaining and neither will let up lol
Its pretty nuts.
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Hahahaha, I can’t. This is too much. You win, Picasso!
This is not fraud: it’s business…have you ever listened to a non-Blizz earnings call before? The entire point is to make the future look rosy so investors by more stock. It’s not illegal, it’s standard procedure…I’m not trolling, I’m being 100% serious. If you want I can link some articles describing earnings call common practices but i don’t think you need that, I hope?
Aye I have, although your correct in that statement, its applied to projections going into the future. Not things that can be verified in the books. If i were to purchase stock options based on that information and its false like youre claiming they have commited fraud.
Yeah but look at it like this: a number of people on this thread, myself included are asking for the numbers they are basing this “record growth” claim. Because they could easily be using metrics that aren’t the ASSUMED measurement of subs per quarter. They aren’t telling us the numbers for a reason.
Plus when you look at it practically: BfA is trash just like WoD was and if the participation/subs are WAY down just like they are historically in content luls like this long drought we are in before 8.3 hits.
So if subs are at their lowest, and they do a big release, if they go from (round numbers for example) 2 million subs to 3 million subs that’s a 150% increase. “ThAt’S a RecOrD!” May be by %…but i can guarantee that Vanilla -> TBC and TBC -> Cata was MILLIONS: so less %, but more ACTUAL PEOPLE.
You see what I mean? They are picking the best looking number, and not sharing how they got it.
Youre so lost in the base subs number. Regardless if its 100,000 or 100,000,000 sales growth is good in the business world. If youre using it to guage the health of WoW i 100% agree with you. Knowing the base sub is crucial. If your gauging sucess growth is king. Especially in a subscription base sales model.
They did… and i am not talking about the 5 minute streamers who only showed up after classic was released and started playing WOW again after quitting for years…