As a warrior in PvE you have two options- Tank and dps
If I rerolled Paladin I could have a tank two tiers above myself, and a comparable dps (in a class that is also favoured by Blizzard buffs). Not only that, I could decide to heal as my OS with either of those former specs as my MS.
If I rerolled DK I would have a comparable tank with an S tier dps in the exact same roles as warrior.
Again, what is the point of playing warrior versus these two classes that eclipse it completely?
People need tanks, theyâd prefer Paladin categorically. People need dps, theyâd prefer DK categorically. Dps theyâd probably prefer Paladins for utility. Tanking they would take a DK at the same rate as warrior.
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At this point, playing warrior really is about loving playing the class more than anything else.
Itâs definitely more challenging to get groups etc.
A lot of people just rerolled to those other classes to get spots. Weâve actually got one guy in my guild who we didnât have a warrior spot for so he raids on his DK but he didnât want to have his warrior with an âaltâ rank so I left him at member. It looks like we may be bringing his warrior back soonish as he really wants that so I looked and heâs been keeping totally up to date with gear doing GDKPs etc every week so that he can get in whenever. I definitely respect it.
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I love that you judged Paladins for making a bunch of âwhineâ threads: yet you donât bat an eye when you make multiple threads about the same topic.
inb4 âit worked for paladins so Iâll whine.â
Youâre a hypocrite.
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Well it apparently works. Donât you have some S-tier raiding to do, overtuned paladin?
Also Iâm leveling a Paladin. Warriors offer no utility and arenât ahead on dps or tanking as a trade-off to that fact. Why the hell should the class be played at all
Edit: You also didnât answer the question of the thread. Figures youâd just sidestep it.
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You should probably try doing more than 5k dps on ignis before writing off an entire class broski
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Iâve had the parse argument before but itâs a flaccid argument Iâm afraid.
If I was 95th percentile, my arguments would still hold water.
Either stay on topic or get out.
Except youâve raided Ulduar an amazing 4 times and writ off the entire class. Warriors will get better by ICC, maybe not S tier but at least A tier at most.
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Amazing you havenât addressed the topic of the thread yet.
Stay on topic or get out. Youâre attacking the messenger which is incredibly intellectually lazy. But you picked the dps for the whole expansion so I should figure as much.
Also I donât care when they will get better. Paladins didnât have to wait, why should I
Warrior is S tier tank for anything speed related. Best snap aggro and mobility of all Tanks.
There you go, a point of playing warrior.
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So we get to tank for the past phases, got it. Weâll be speedrunning ToGC and Ulduar while Prot paladins are tanking the Lich King.
Glad you admit that warriors are sub-par when related to current content.
???
Pick up Commanding Presence and your Commanding Shout will be providing the entire raid with 2818 more hitpoints.
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Glad you admit that you have no clue about the current content.
Imagine broadening your horizon, and take a look at who is AT THIS MOMENT already the meta tank for speedrunning ulduar.
Hint: its not the paladin.
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You being clueless how to play your class isnât a reason to attack me. Itâs not my fault youâre bad at the game, work on yourself.
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Nobody is speedrunning Ulduar. Let me clarify- nobody beyond 2% of raids are speedrunning Ulduar.
Oh so we dont take the top notch raiders into account ? Well then not even a problem existing here at all, because then warrior is absolutely fine.
Warrior is only bad in the minds of the meta slaves for the purposes you pointed out.
My guild clears algalon 25man with 3 dps warriors, and does 10 man algalon with 2 warrior tanks.
I dont see the problem of warriors here, outside of people thinking they need the âbestâ theoretical possible setup for everything, which is not necessary for anything outside of speedrunning.
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100% wrong, warrior is bad top to bottom according to pretty much all raids. Iâll require again that you answer the question in the thread topic.
And why wouldnât people think that? Iâve had one person suggest some utility that warriors provide, and itâs commanding shout.
Otherwise weâre B tanks, B dps and nothing else.
Delimicus: The day I listen to a paladin over how to do anything in PvE is the day I uninstall WoW. Youâre Blizzardâs golden child and it shows.
I did. I pointed out a unique ability of warrior tanks.
I also pointed out that warriors are absolutely viable for every content in the game, even if they are not the best at it.
If you can argue against that, go ahead.
If you claim that people wont play outside of a âperfectâ meta setup with every Tank, Heal and DPS being the best possible choice, show me an example of that outside of a week 1 tryhard worldfirst setup.
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Speedrunning past content and commanding shout. Amazing, I should make a second warrior for how useful they are considered.
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Would you prefer me to educate you on how to make the most of your class while I post from my Blood DPS DK?
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You can if you want, blood isnât a dps spec and shows me how soft you brain has gone from the ease in which Paladins find groups.
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