With 2hs p1 runes being overload and lava burst, this could easily become a reality, unless we get some kind of attack power into spell damage thing, or more strike based runes. Over burst will remain an insane option in pvp reguardless and weaving it might still be worth it for non spellhance 2h since it just hits so hard
I’m Alliance on my main account but I’d roll horde to play a shaman on my second account if they get Chain Heal
I was thinking like “Way of Maelstrom”
Wielding a 2h imbued with windfury converts attack power into spellpower and your melee attacks grant maelstrom, reducing cast times of next damaging or healing spells by 20% (stacks 5 times)
Shaman get chain heal at 40
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Yeah i had a post with taht but way of storm with wf! Pretty similar take lol, but woth higher proc rates of maekstrom for 2h but both get ap in to spell damage. Maybe some free stacks of maelstrom on stormstrike and shocks for 2h could really put it ahead. The difficulty is finding the balance because randos like to scream at you for ideas that might slightly favor the wrong of the two lol
Thats or give us sundering and or like a stormthrow that can proc wf on everything it hits in a line skill shot
While I agree it’s not a big deal P1 (mostly because it’s nearly over. Overall it does matter as we are stuck in each phase for months.), classes sucking in P2 is a big deal as by then you have your toolkit and important talents. The chance of the last two waves of runes fixing all of your class / spec issues becomes less likely unless they just throw in over powered runes for that class.
As is without considering new runes we know Shaman get far more deadly at 40 and will have some of the buttons they are missing like chain lightning, and stormstrike along with a few other buttons. I think Enchance WF is better than what Druids get. They are also at a good point for most spell ranks unlike right now with LB and some of the other skills getting upgrades at 26. Spell ranks hurt the casters that don’t do all their damage with runes, there is a reason Warlocks are so good while the next best caster is mage that is tied with Pally DPS. Mail armor is also going to be huge in PvP if there is good itemization, Shaman are already really bulky and more armor is always nice.
Many of the Shaman runes while not strong now, scale well later on. The one thing that seems awkward for me is a lack of a good Enchance DPS chest rune that works with 2h weapons.
I can’t wait for chain lightning with overload in PvP myself. That just sounds like so much fun in group PvP.
I mean yeah, druid doesnt have an actual equivalent for windfury. Wild strikes is comparable to the totem, but their personal imbue is two extra attacks instead of one
Shamans are buffing every 30s-2m lol. You have to redrop the totems every pull.
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To be honest, I don’t recall shaman to be even close to be a top tier damage class in all wow history. to much RNG involved into the class kit (WF procs, the random lightning surge idk what in retail and etc). dual wielding is also kind of a joke since we don’t have talents points to increase the off hand damage like rogues. we sure get a 10% hit chance but who care to hit stuff if the hit does 20 damage xD. So yeah, Ench shaman will never happen sadly. elemental might pop off but not ench
problem with ele is the mana issue and the fact that most of your dmg windows are 3 mins apart and not as good sustained even when you have the mana.
they might have solved some of the mana issue with water shield and the like but really that has yet to be seen.
none of the spells are very efficient for a sustained push.
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Sham rage solves this just fine.
Ele will take lava burst unless fighting fire immune mobs. Lava Burst and Water Shield on the same rune. Water shield is more of a Resto thing.
ahh then the mana issues will continue?
i dont know . havent messed with rage yet.
You don’t need to drop totem every pull just for bosses.
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What.
Mana.
Issues.
Do you even play?
but you can have pally buffs for the trash and the bosses easily.
yes i played shaman at 60 in era and mana was a real concern.
have they fixed it already?
and will it work for 60?
Yeah no thats not how it works but thanks for your clown input.
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Go back to Era, you’re in the wrong forums.
Sure but then the pally needs to buff 10(5 in dungeons), people + pets 1-2 times on trash between bosses then again before the boss to refresh them. They are a waste of time on trash, the increase is so minor and trash falls over.
Will you actually take lava burst in the future? Considering needing flameshock everytime and lightning bolt already beats chain lightning at a certain spellpower threshold.
Why does it matter that you’re making a comparison? Can you not have fun without thinking about another classes performance?
If you wanted to provide some level of meaningful feedback, I think we’d all appreciate it, but this post doesn’t matter outside of venting to the void.
Shamans do not have to be “Special”. They just need to provide value to groups. Shamans still get invited and will continue to get invited in parallel to ferals in p2 because value is being achieved.